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It's been 17 years since the last election. Assuming only 18 and up could vote, that means only people current around 34 and up could vote. So the bulk of Palestinians didn't even have a chance to vote in that election. Not to mention that they were given the choice between a corrupt faction (Fatah) and a possible less corrupt faction (Hamas).
I am so afraid this message is getting lost. There has been a deliberate push to paint this latest incident to be the reason that neighborhoods had to be flattened and civilians slaughtered.
why can't they hold elections?
Conveniently, the Palestinian government is denying all citizens the right to vote because those who live in Jerusalem would not be included. It helps Hamas keep power while pinning blame elsewhere.
They scheduled one for last year to get on Biden's good side, but that never happened.
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2021/1/27/palestinian-elections-democracy-for-no-one
They can. They won't.
Either they're just undemocratic, or they know that the results of elections wouldn't be what they want them to be.
Because Abbas is a lying, snivelling turd who pretends to care about his people.
Presumably because they are busy planning funerals for their children
By not revolting against Hamas, they are actively supporting them.
You're either with our against the terrorists. There's no in-between.
By not actively revolting all of America was responsible for Abu Ghraib?
Hamas sucks, I wish they were never allowed to assume any power. But if Hamas doesn't control the water, electricity, food, currency, internet, or borders in Gaza; who should the Palestinians revolt against?
That's actuslly an interesting point, and I do appreciate you bringing it up.
My take is that they, the Palestinians in Gaza, should do whatever in their power to break down Hamas from inside, and show that they are strongly against these terrorists.
They should not revolt against Hamas as their leaders, since you showed they are not (even though I'm under the belief that they are, de facto), but they should revolt against Hamas residing inside of Gaza, and using the territory as a base for their terrorist operations.
So you believe Hamas is the only problem here and once they are killed off the violence will stop and relations can be normalized?
Yep. Israel is just acting in self defense, as it always has done in the past.
But Israel is doing more than self defense.
Hamas are pure reactionaries that no one would feel safe living next too. But to pretend that Hamas just randomly popped is fantasy land BS. There is more to this story and the world can't solve this bloody conflict without first understanding all peoples deserves peace and freedom.
You do know what a false dichotomy is, right?
Which terrorists? The Israeli ones or the Palestinian ones?