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As in title. What's your experience with it? If something isn't executable, then it has to exploit vulnerability in order to run anything malicious. But does it happen often with mp4, mkv and other files like mp3 or epub?

I assume that if I use updated linux, then I'm mostly safe?

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[–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I assume that if I use updated linux, then I'm mostly safe?

I don't know why Linux users think they're completely immune to malware. Yes it's very unlikely that something gains root access if you run it without super-user privileges, but that program can still access your home folder and look at all your private data.

[–] Xirup@lemmy.one 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Probably because the vast majority of the pirate software available is for Windows, and there's no way that program will run natively on Linux.

I mean, if I download a movie from freevirus(dot)com it is most likely that the movie will be a .mp4.exe and not a .mp4.sh.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

And even if it is a .sh file, you'd still have to change it's permissions before it could do anything

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If wine installed, there is a big chance that the exe can be started by simply doubleckicking on it. A lot of windows programs can run in wine without any specific setup, e.g. a basic crypto miner.

[–] Xirup@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's why I said natively.

I agree with what you said, but it's also important to clarify that a lot, but a lot of pirate Windows software doesn't run on Linux with just two clicks, even with Wine, it doesn't look like it but check c/LinuxCrackTips.

Games like Forza Horizon 5 or Monster Hunter World (just to mention two examples I have in mind) need to run under a specific Wine prefix that is usually not as simple as searching on internet which prefix to use, it's pure proof and pain of trying until the game miraculously opens, and many times if it's not the problem of the prefix itself it's because you have to add specific environment variables, sometimes you need specific dependencies that you don't have any idea, sometimes said dependency is DX11

I think that even sometimes is worse, Days Gone for example ran with lag because I used "system sync" and not "esync" and here it wasn't even the prefix problem, it was of that, nobody told me, I had to try it myself.

And not to mention that when you want to download pirated games on Linux it's best that they're a crack made by Empress, since she/he has to work specifically with Proton binaries to make it work on the Steam Deck, look Resident Evil 4 Remake where Empress had to create a crackfix specifically for Linux (better Linux support than Capcom herself, heh) because the game to Linux users under Wine/Proton threw an error, but the same game on Windows didn't suffer from that.

And finally, there are programs that just don't run because "Your GPU isn't supported", that mean that the program it's not detecting the driver, so I find it hard for something like a cryptominer to work in Linux under Wine, but of course it can happen.

Personally I use Bottles, since Bottles allows me to manage my prefixes and their processes in an orderly and clean way with graphical interface and within a flatpak container (which I know, it is not necessarily the safest thing, but it is inside the Wine container, and the Flatpak container that gives me more security) but within Bottles I can close all the programs and processes that a prefix has open with a click, if I had Wine installed at system level where the programs ran to two clicks I actually would worry too much because I would not have the same level of management as in Bottles.

[–] loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SilentStorms@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Curious if those percentages are still true, Windows compatability has improved a lot in the past 4 years.

[–] master@lem.serkozh.me 18 points 1 year ago

It is very unlikely that someone is gonna bother creating malware for Linux unless it's a targeted attack

[–] transientpunk@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Eh. I only ever open pirated movie/video files from within a docker container (Plex server) running in a VM. I don't think I have much to worry about.

[–] plexnose@geddit.social 4 points 1 year ago

We don’t - but the risk is minuscule compared to windows. The actual chance of finding some working Linux malware in the wild is practically zero.

[–] seriousslayerguy@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Oh no, it would be a shame if someone saw my naughty pictures.