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“I couldn’t dream in my worst nightmare something like this,” says Amir Ben Natan, an attendee of the Supernova Sukkot Gathering rave where hundreds died in Hamas attack

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[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If the people hamas brutalized at this festival were politicians of the Israeli state, or even members of their military or police force, then you may have some kind of point. But these were just innocent people, a good chunk of whom weren't even from Israel. Was the Israeli state itself aware that there would be further violence caused by their continued oppression of Palestinians? Definitely, and they aren't the ones who will suffer that violence.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Innocent people who thought it was totally okay to go party and rave on the outskirts of the biggest open air prison on earth, where people are getting massacred daily. Where children get separated from their parents or families daily, if not murdered themselves or burned alive or raped. Where people are given just enough electricity, drinking water and food to experience slow death and suffer.

Literally you have the entire world open, and if all the places to party and rave you choose that? I do not celebrate death, but if anyone to blame, it is themselves.

Hamas has treated their hostages far better than Israel has treated theirs, even though Israel is a recognized state that answers to the international community, and Hamas is a mere militia.

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You won't see me defending Israel. Ive spent a good chunk of my day condemning them. But those Hamas fighters didn't have to mass murder people at a dance party. What they were doing may have been insensitive given the proximity to Gaza, but they are not responsible for the apartheid state of Israel or the disgusting actions of the IDF or Israeli police force. Their actions would be somewhat understandable if they had only taken hostages, which they also did do, but the indiscriminate murder of innocent people is exactly what we're condemning Israel for. They didn't have to murder them. And its unclear what claims are true yet, but if the rest of them are true then they have committed some of the most vile disgusting acts human beings can inflict upon one another. Not that the response by Israel is justified even if they did do those things, but those actions if they are true are unjustifiable and inexcusable in every sense of the word. Rapists are evil, and their actions should see universal condemnation.

[–] DingDongBell@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago

Sounds like "you deserved to get raped for wearing bikini" or something