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Israel strikes Gaza tower as death tolls jump after Hamas attack (www.aljazeera.com)

submitted 1 year ago by alyaza@beehaw.org to c/news@beehaw.org

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At least 198 Palestinians killed in Israeli air raids; Hamas attack kills 70 Israelis, ‘big number’ also captured.

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[–] Landrin201@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Punitive reprisals to... The open declaration of war Hamas made today?

Who in their right mind expects a country to supply power to the country that literally just attacked them?

[–] alyaza@beehaw.org 65 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the primary reason Hamas has political power and the political support to attack Israel in this manner is because Israel:

treats all Palestinians as second-class citizens and subjects them to a system of political, social, and economic apartheid
holds millions of Palestinians in squalid and inhuman conditions, and seizes the territory of millions more in the name of a violent settler project
subjects the vast majority of Palestinians to state-sponsored discrimination, terror, indiscriminate bombing, and political violence
leaves Palestinians no feasible democratic path to the rights they should have in their current state or the state of Israel, making armed struggle inevitable

you can and should condemn Hamas, but it is inarguable that Israel routinely does worse—overwhelmingly to people just as innocent as the ones Hamas is murdering—which is what makes attacks like this inevitable. you cannot do what Israel does and not expect the outcome to be violence, and it is incumbent on Israel, who holds all the actual power in this dynamic, to break the cycle and stop using every terrorist attack perpetuated against it as an excuse to roll innocent heads.

[+] Landrin201@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

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[–] UngodlyAudrey@beehaw.org 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Criticism of the actions of Israel's government does not make one an antisemite.

[–] newtraditionalists@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

So glad to see this sentiment supported on beehaw. It's a shame that people equate the two.

[–] alyaza@beehaw.org 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Cool so I respond to an antisemite saying that Israel refusing to supply power to a state that just declared war on it is punitive, and your response was to say it’s Israel’s fault.

i mean, yeah. Netanyahu is saying he's going to basically reduce Gaza to rubble when 99% of Gazans are innocents and can't leave Gaza because Israel is blockading them. Israeli bombs have killed far more innocents than actual terrorists in the Strip as seen in my citation. this is the exact behavior that allows Hamas to thrive. Israel, as a state, has the power to not do this and to seek more productive options—but does it anyways because it simply doesn't care about the humanity of Palestinians and considers all of them acceptable collateral damage in killing Hamas members.

[–] admin@beehaw.org 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Name-calling (accusing someone of being an antisemite) is NOT nice. We have one rule, here at Beehaw, to be(e) nice. This is your only warning. Enjoy your seven day vacation from Beehaw.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Would be good to just defederate lemmy.ml

[–] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 24 points 1 year ago

This take is braindead enough that you should probably delete your account. That shit is just straight up embarrassingly bad.