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[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I have a bad habit of mixing personal bias into things when I get into a passionate writing fit and it sometimes comes off as pretentious dickery. I never set out to attack kagi users themselves even if I can now see now it did come across and those comments were unneeded. I was being a pretentious jerk with those comments and apologize to all you kagi users for my assholery.

I do think its a waste to spend money on a search engine, and that open source software instance maintainers could probably make use that $ better than another search engine startup. I am being honest with those personal opinions. But its not my place to judge those who decide they are in a well enough financial spot to pay $ for a service that adds precieved value to their life or where they decide to pay it to.

Its fustrating as a FOSS nerd to see so many people shill yet another subscription based service feeding money into another souless company that makes promises of protecting your data and not selling it to ad companies now but has no gaurentee of holding those promises over time. That's how the subscription services get you once they have you, slowly changing promises and creeping in their money making bs but slowly enough to not be too jarring. Maybe I'm just disillusioned with things after being burned so many times. Best of luck to you though I hope it continues to be a valuable service to those willing to pay for it.

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I'm not a kagi user, but I'll put in a word for paying for services: a search engine requires time, equipment and hosting to run. Sure some kind people may be willing to run it free. But search in my opinion is an essential service. If it's not working, I want there to be someone responsible, and (in the kindest sense) obliged to get it working.

Going further, if there are new developments in the tech or new features to be implemented, I want there to be an incentive for the operator to implement them.

I don't turn to a hobbyist to give me eyeglasses or fix my car. Similarly I don't turn to an advertiser. In some cases I fix my car myself, but when something is too complex or time intensive for me to handle I'm going to pay to ensure I have that essential good or service.

[–] pearsche@lemdro.id 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I do think its a waste to spend money on a search engine

I honestly believe that it's good to pay for services if you find them good. FOSS does need the money but unless you want to wait for the long term, it's not viable as a user.

Its fustrating as a FOSS nerd to see so many people shill yet another subscription based service ...

I'm quite interested in FOSS stuff but I get disappointed by so much FOSS stuff I now just use whatever feels the best to me