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[–] sping@lemmy.sdf.org 63 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Frankly, I think it's entirely because of the self-selected nature of the people migrating, and the fact that the whole federation thing is mildly confusing so only people who have made sense of it and worked out how it works are here. If/when it becomes more obvious and popular beyond early-adopters, it'll be targeted by all the same bots and propagandists and chudiots as anywhere else.

[–] Kaizar@tezzo.f0rk.pl 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's practically the same reason reddit and other online communities were so much better a decade ago - idiots simply couldn't find their way to them / it was "icky nerd shit"

[–] makeitso@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It makes me giddy to think of how fast people are working on readers/apps for Lemmy that will make all of this way easier for more people to adopt.

[–] Aman9das@rammy.site 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but i feel there's a lot to be done in the base lemmy protocol too - such as migrating your account to another server - should the current one fall etc etc

Of course mastodon is the most mature in this regard, I hope lemmy does too

[–] animist@lemmy.one 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But since we can make our own instances easily, we can get rid of the rif raf more easily than on reddit

[–] KillaBeez@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I really hope this doesn’t lead to people forming their own echo chambers and instances become “teams”

[–] chaorace@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 year ago

Well, it's bound to happen to some extent (e.g.: instances blocking lemmygrad), but you have a lot of power to mitigate this effect as an individual user. By default, nothing's blocked, so it's on you as a user if you choose to "live" somewhere that's interested in proscribing undesirables.

It's not a perfect solution. Perhaps leadership changes (or you change) and suddenly your interests are no longer aligned. Nobody wants to get stranded! Eventually maybe user migrations will be a thing, but for now we'll just have to do our best to choose our home-bases wisely based on our own ideological and practical needs (SDF represent!)

[–] GiantBasil@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I already found my way, commented and subscribed to other instances from beehaw and I wasn't even aware I did it at first, tbh. I don't know if they all connverse seamlessly like that, but hopefully we will be able to keep it nice and civil.

[–] sping@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

Can you though? There have to be communities to join, and they are what get polluted. As I understand it, switching instances won't help.

Someone then has to police a community if you want to "get rid of the riff-raff" and they will follow who-knows-what criteria for their policing. Just look at all the right-wing subreddits for an example of how policing doesn't necessarily raise the quality of discussion.

[–] KillaBeez@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I think you’re right. It seems like there’s a pattern for every new platform.

Early adopters make the the site fun, valuable, and worth while

People start to notice and the platform grows, becoming slightly worse, but still pretty cool.

Platform explodes in popularity and it goes to complete shit.

It’s happened with Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and Reddit. I’m sure that day will come for this place as well. I guess we’ll just need to enjoy it while it lasts.

[–] Micromot@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

I think the instance thing makes botting a bit easier to avoid if they make them in a new instance. Idk