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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/6240929

I'm a pretty heavy torrent user, running a media server complete with sonarr/radarr for automatic downloads. I download a lot, and have multiple TBs of upload on various private trackers. I've been torrenting forever, but I've always wondered about usenet. Over and over on this, and other, forums I see people saying that usenet is way better - but why?

I understand what it is overall, but what makes it better than traditional torrenting? In my mind, it's always just seemed like a different means to the same end. I pay for a VPN and torrent for "free", or I pay for usenet access and download directly from there. As someone who's "snobby" around the quality of the stuff I torrent, does usenet provide an advantage there?

Usenet fans, I'd love to hear what makes you love it! I'm always open to trying new things, and if It really is better I'd love to know why! (Plus, maybe what providers/tools etc you recommend).

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[–] stown@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Paying for a piracy service kind of defeats the purpose for me. At $100 per year I would rather rent the movies and rip them myself.

[–] Zavasay@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

$100/year is less than $9/month. You’re not going to get very many rentals with that. Whereas Usenet, you can get as much as you want. $9 a month is also less or the same as a single subscription to a streaming service. I’d gladly pay $9 for one place to have everything I want. I’ve never used usenet, just pointing out why it would be worth to some people to pay for it.

[–] stown@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you know how much a library membership costs where you are? Are you unable to rent movies at your public library? BitTorrent covers the majority of my needs but when I can't find that older movie online I can usually find it at my public library.

[–] Zavasay@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

Okay you got me. I definitely was not remembering you can rent for free from public libraries. That is highly under utilized feature in my life (and many people’s) but I have, in the last five years, been using it a lot more for audio books.

[–] sherpajosh@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I used to think paying for defeats the purpose too. But the super fast, easy access to everything and not having to worry about maintaining a ratio anywhere, I am now happy to pay a little something, it's nowhere near $100 per year for me. From what I understand with private trackers now, you're going to need pay for a seedbox to keep a decent ratio or seed forever with a home connection. I don't have the disk space to seed forever, so I pay for usenet.

And I would much rather pay what I am paying every year rather than spending the time to rent and rip the hundreds of hours of movies and tv I download.

[–] stown@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When you rip your own you get to control the quality, which I think is the best part, but I suppose if you needed to rip 100s of movies a year it would become a chore. The thing is that the majority of new movies and TV can easily be found on BitTorrent, so I would only need to rent and rip a few obscure or older films in a year, and those could probably be found at the library.

[–] Inktvip@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

You essentially pay for convenience. If there was a streaming service that had everything I would gladly pay good money for it, since there isn't, I have to curate my own library instead.

Having good indexers/Usenet providers and automations takes away a lot, if not all the time needed to hunt down good releases. That saved time and hassle is what's worth the ~100/year for me.