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Detroit man steals 800 gallons using Bluetooth to hack gas pumps at station::undefined

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[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

From everything I know about locks in important places, all pumps probably use the same key. You can probably buy that key online. I know this is true for elevators and those boxes for entering buildings, and Crown Vic police cars (and the taxis they've become after being sold), and many other things.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

those boxes for entering buildings

do you mean doors ?

I wish he meant doors 😂

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Knox Box maybe

[–] Irinir@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He likely means card readers.

[–] JonEFive@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In buildings in some cities, entry ways for big buildings often have an emergency access box somewhere near the door. If police or the fire department need to gain entry, they have a master key that will let them access the lockbox and the lockbox will contain keys to the door.

[–] youstolemyname@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's a lockbox that is mounted near the door that contains a key to said door or an override used by emergency services such as the fire department. The boxes are all keyed the same.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

I can't think of the term for them, but they have a keypad and other buttons to call in and unlock the door, often along with things for postal and emergency services to get in if required.

[–] thoughtorgan@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol this is not true for crown Vic cop cars at all. I used to own one. They have car keys just like anything else from the era

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] thoughtorgan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not all the "same" key like you make out out to be. Yes it's a fleet vehicle, and yes all vehicles in the same fleet may have the same key. But no, not all ignitions of all Vic cop cars are not the same at all.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now you're just being pedantic. Sure, not every one of them used the same key, but each municipality used the same key for their vehicles most of the time. One of then in particular was very common.

[–] thoughtorgan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's not as simple as just buying a key online like you make it out to be. This is not a vending machine that has a universal key that works for pretty much everything, the keying on a fleet can be the same, but it's just like any other car key. Some fleets had wildly different keying, you'd have to go through 20 plus keys before you even got something that was probably similar enough to even start the ignition.