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[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 34 points 11 months ago

China is helping China develop Chinese chips?

shocked-pikachu

[-] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 19 points 11 months ago

If the Chinese help China build this Chinese infrastructure, it may reduce Chinese dependence on Chinese chips, since China will be able to produce its own chips instead of buying them from China. This may hurt China economically long term, since China is the largest buyer of Chinese chips by far and if they start buying chips produced in China instead of Chinese chips China's economy might shrink.

Then again this is probably not that big a deal. Just more anti-Chinese propaganda by the US, pushing for Chinese independence from China, without quite going all the way and recognizing China as its own country, since that would go against the long standing policy that China is one country and China is part of that country.

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 12 points 11 months ago

Okay but how much wood would a wood chuck chuck tho?

[-] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 13 points 11 months ago

A LOT. If those fuckers could chuck wood I would even go so far as to say probably all of it.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

Republic of China ≠ People's republic of China.

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Well yes. One is the result of a bloodthirsty and corrupt military dictatorship which is directly responsible for the deaths of millions, whereas the other is the People's Republic of China.

However, both are China as you can see from the names they've chosen for themselves.

[-] lud@lemm.ee -1 points 11 months ago

One is one of the most democratic countries in the world and PRC is one of the most undemocratic countries of the world.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 38 points 11 months ago

"one of the most democratic countries in the world" might be a bit of a stretch here

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 38 points 11 months ago

Democracy is when you spend several decades murdering and repressing all leftist political opposition. The more leftists to murder and suppress, the more democratic it is.

  • State Department Handbook, probably
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[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Only the PRC is recognized as a country under international law. The RoC government squatting in Taiwan Province is legally no different to the ISIS occupation of parts of Iraq.

The PRC is one of the few truly sovereign states in the world, able to resist American domination on its own terms. The residents of Taiwan Province get to vote between stooges of American imperialism and stooges of Japanese imperialism.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

The rest of the world is seemingly too scared to upset the PRC so many won't recognize Taiwan. Many countries maintain unofficial relationships.

It's obviously a country and it's useless discussing this further with a tankie.

The PRC is one of the few truly sovereign states in the world, able to resist American domination on its own terms.

How do you define "American domination" and what other countries do you consider to be affected by it? Personally I don't feel dominated by idiots.

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 24 points 11 months ago

It's obviously a country and it's useless discussing this further with a tankie.

Renowned Tankies, the states parties to the Montevideo Convention. Hardcore Stalinists, the lot of them!

How do you define "American domination" and what other countries do you consider to be affected by it?

"It's useless discussing with a Tankie!", proceeds to discuss with a Tankie. Very good rhetoric, 10/10.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

So you can't define it. What a shocker.

Sometimes it's just funny to discuss things with morons. It makes you feel like a genius in comparison.

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 21 points 11 months ago

I thought it was pointless to discuss with me? Which one is it? Retract one of your two contradictory statements and I'll happily define whatever you want.

[-] ArthurParkerhouse@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago
[-] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 28 points 11 months ago

There is only one China, according to about 180 countries on earth. That includes USA. FYI, Taiwan never expressed a want for independence because Taiwan itself wants reunification with China. Ever thought of it?

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

Yeah. Not many know that Taiwan is the true China, waiting for the mainland

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[-] lud@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago

They don't want to be reunified under a PRC government like the PRC wants, instead they have a claim on present PRC territory.

Taiwan is independent nowadays though.

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 31 points 11 months ago

Taiwan is independent nowadays though.

Independence from China is when one of the emblems of your armed forces is this:

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 5 points 11 months ago

And speaking of the ROC Marine Corps, the ROC claims more parts of the South China Sea than the PRC (11 dash line vs 9 dash line), but unlike its claims of Mongolia, which is treated as a joke that no one takes seriously, the ROC is very serious in its pursuit of its claims to the SCS by building naval bases and holding regular naval exercises. Here's Vietnam diplomatically telling the ROC to fuck off from the Spratly Islands.

A Republic of Taiwan has no conceivable grounds to pursuit any claims to the SCS because the SCS is nowhere close to what the territorial waters of a hypothetical ROT would be and a ROT is not part of any international treaty which a ROT could use to justify de jure control. But it's not claiming the SCS as a ROT but as the ROC. And unlike a ROT, the ROC as China does have international agreement which would give it de jure control over the SCS. This is how you know Taiwanese separatism is farcical. It's all "Taiwan is culturally and politically distinct from China" until the SCS is involved then it's suddenly, "aktually as the Republic of China, these are Chinese water and thus our territorial waters since we are the Republic of China you see." But then again, what else do you expect from the political (and literal) descendants of Japanese fascist collaborators who (not so secretly) wish they were Japanese?

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