i repeat the statement, all chinese apps are similar, look for example mijia and meidi smart home, they're basically identical, like "there's only one way to make a smart home app"

I use dozens of chinese apps and i can totally distinguish immediately when the dev is chinese.

I didn't say it's no longer the case in the newer version of the apps. It's mitigated on newer versions of android, because they're exploiting the OS in order to trace users, which should not happen.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I used all of them because I got my new phone a few days into the trip and used it for the remaining week or so I was there. I'm still using Chinese apps on a daily basis now, so why are they all empty?

Let's talk about your other claims as well. Irrelevant permissions? Zero. Ads on boot? Hardly everything since most of the utility apps don't have ads at all.

i repeat the statement, all chinese apps are similar, look for example mijia and meidi smart home, they're basically identical, like "there's only one way to make a smart home app"

All American apps are similar. Look for example Twitter and Threads, they're basically identical, like "there's only one way to make a social media platform"

I use dozens of chinese apps and i can totally distinguish immediately when the dev is chinese.

Well I'm sorry my digital caliper sense isn't as developed as yours. I'll strive to be better.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe the folders are empty because your Xiaomi has the "cleaner" app. Did you ever wonder why only Chinese phones have "cleaner" apps? Because the situation in the country is widely abused.

You repeat that taobao or Huawei app store don't have ads on the splash screen. This means you never actually used those apps.

The way you're defending those coding practices is really weird. I notice now your username. Now I understand. It's not that because the ruling party has a nostalgic symbol in their logo (but it's as capitalist as the usa, without health insurance you're fucked), the apps made in that country are automatically good and perfect.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe the folders are empty because your Xiaomi has the "cleaner" app. Did you ever wonder why only Chinese phones have "cleaner" apps? Because the situation in the country is widely abused.

Again. Explain the Samsung not having a single hidden folder under the same circumstances. Is it because Samsung had a "cleaner" function too? Is the situation in South Korea widely abused top? Most Android phones have cleaning and self maintenance functions. Google's Files app has a similar cleaning function. Has the problem spread to the US?!

You repeat that taobao or Huawei app store don't have ads on the splash screen. This means you never actually used those apps.

No, those store apps are store apps. Of course they're going to try to sell you shit. When I open my Amazon app the first thing it does is show me shit I might want to buy. Is Besos Chinese now too? When did this happen?

Your ridiculous claim is that all Chinese apps are similar. Therefore they all show ads on boot. My onus of proof is discharged when I show even one single Chinese app with no ads on boot, which is a lot of them.

The way you're defending those coding practices is really weird. I notice now your username. Now I understand. It's not that because the ruling party has a nostalgic symbol in their logo (but it's as capitalist as the usa, without health insurance you're fucked), the apps made in that country are automatically good and perfect.

Oh that's weird, tell me about how Chinese people are fucked without health insurance when there's universal health insurance?

I'm not defending any coding practices because there's no such thing as a "Chinese coding practice" to defend. You started off saying that there were at least 3 verifiable things that all Chinese apps do, and now you're down to "look, there's a general vibe from apps from China".

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The cleaner feature in Google files is nowhere as sophisticated, it just cleans the cache, while the Chinese cleaners download a definition file to know which files are to be removed and which not.

As for Samsung, I don't know, remember that the apps are dropping that fake images as a security exploit without having explicit permission to do that. Maybe Samsung is blocking that exploit.

Regarding health coverage, it definitely depends on the employer, if you are unemployed and didn't pay the optional premium, you won't be cured as well. In other capitalist European countries you would be cured the same way for free no matter if you are homeless, unemployed or a billionaire. I lived several months in Beijing and I never saw an ambulance on the streets. Asked around, I always got the same response "ambulance too expensive, we go hospital by taxi". Seems weird that a "communist" country doesn't share resources with the comrades.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Or it's actually just some benign thing because you haven't posted any evidence which says that the .gsX files are even malicious or caused by Chinese apps. I've been googling for it and haven't found any serious documentation about it. A reddit post linking it with Hotels.com (American company, lmao) and an LTT thread linking it to Ladaza (a Filipino app). In the absence of more and better proof, I'm not even convinced that it's an exploit.

And again. You claimed that ALL Chinese apps ask for IMEI permissions. No proof of that either. It's all just made up horse shit to justify your vibes based racism about how Chinese people can't code.

Regarding health coverage, it definitely depends on the employer, if you are unemployed and didn't pay the optional premium, you won't be cured as well. In other capitalist European countries you would be cured the same way for free no matter if you are homeless, unemployed or a billionaire. I lived several months in Beijing and I never saw an ambulance on the streets. Asked around, I always got the same response "ambulance too expensive, we go hospital by taxi". Seems weird that a "communist" country doesn't share resources with the comrades.

None of this is consistent with the link I provided so it's your word and anecdote against the professionally prepared page and its supporting citations.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago

It's not that they can't code, it's that they're coding in isolation. They don't have experience in using Android apps designed for foreign countries because they're literally blocked to do so. They see all apps are spyware in disguise and think it's totally ok to do so.

It's not a coincidence that Google play banned pinduoduo because it used forbidden ways to track users. Or the DJI app, banned from Google play too.

This policy only hurt themselves and it's undeniable. Like that time Tencent accidentally included literal malware in an iOS app because a dev downloaded an infected version of xcode from a random Chinese website instead of apple.com (accessing any website hosted outside the country is super slow)

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago

PS read this: http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2016-05/03/content_25014998.htm

A meter to calculate how much you need to pay for a life saving vehicle is something you would expect in the USA, not in a "communist" country. Where is the standard of equality between all the citizens if only the rich can afford to get to the hospital? Isn't this capitalism? For reference, the article mentions 3600 yuan the shandong woman had to pay to transport her father to the hospital equals to 2 months of salary.