holy shit stop invading and leave? OUTRAGEOUS! the nerve of zelensky to ask for what is Ukraine's! I think you should go join the trenches to show how mad you are!

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Zelensky knowing that there wasn't a hope in hell of Russians accepting this is false? You know it, I know it, we all know it. It's just politics. Of course Zelensky has to offer something, even if he knows they won't bite.

The Russians have to claw something out of this debacle to sue for peace. And I hope the Ukrainians give them nothing, and take back the Crimea while they're at it.

[–] Enkrod@feddit.de -1 points 1 year ago

No, see when he says "a fairer distribution of global benefits" that needs to start with distributing ukrainian benefits to russian oligarchs obviously!

[–] Groucho_the_grouch@lemmygrad.ml -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why do you want to force the people of Crimea and the Donbas to be subjected to a government that they despise? Why don't those people have any right to self determination?

[–] jcit878@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they can move to the shithole that is russia if they want to live under a shit government

[–] Groucho_the_grouch@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You want huge populations to be forcibly removed? That sounds like genocide

[–] jcit878@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

you mean like the Uyghurs? genocide is really fucked, what are you doing about the Uyghurs?

edit: no-one is forcing russian simps in Crimea to move anywhere you absolute nonce, they can live free under ukraine or go suck balls in russia if thats what they want

[–] Groucho_the_grouch@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They were getting bombed and murdered by the ukrainian military since 2014. Thats not what I call "living free"

[–] jcit878@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

the ukranian military were bombing civilians? please, lets see a non-cooker source.

Also i love you mention 2014, i wonder what relevant action happened then that made the whole area a shitstorm? i dunno, must just be a coincidence, surely nothing to do with the incompetant half-strength military staffed by drunk conscripts that has been shooting rockets at hospitals and malls for the past 18 months

edit: also respond to the Uyghur situation. by default you are condoning genocide

[–] Groucho_the_grouch@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's the uyghur situation? Is that a part of Ukraine?

[–] jcit878@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

you know what i love about lemmygrad? it takes no effort to bring out the stupid

bad year to be a wannabe soviet cooker mate