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More dishonesty. You had to buy the Microsoft mouse separate from any computer purchase just like you would have had to for a Mac. Apple didn’t bundle a mouse with a secondary button because their User Interface Guidelines explicitly state that user functions should not be hidden behind non-UI interactions and that all commands should be accessible by a primary click.
It has nothing to do with a walled garden. You’re wrong and now you just sound ignorant.
Look man, i get that you're probably a diehard Apple fanboy, but you're really missing the point.
Fact 1 - Microsoft openly supported a multi-button mouse and offered it to you. PCs that were budled with Microsoft windows came with a 2 button mouse. They trusted their users to understand how it worked.
Fact 2 - Apple supported mutli-button mice but refused to bundle it with their computers until 2005 because they didn't trust that users were smart enough to use it.
These 2 facts lead back to the original point. That PC makers trusted their users were smart enough, and Apple didn't. That Apple only relented when they were proven wrong that people could very easily use and understand a multi-button mouse. That they were late to the party to bundle it with their computers.
Prove me wrong on either if the 2 facts.
And the "walled garden" is an ethos which has dictated all of Apples choices. They want to have full control over what us done on their hardware and software. It has merit to our conversation.
And honestly, your arguments will never change the fact that Apple's approach to hardware and software has been a deterrent to user for decades.
Alright, I’m out. You’re a liar and are moving the goalposts of the original discussion. I don’t engage with liars. Worse yet, you attack anyone who proves you wrong as a fanboy. There’s no point in continuing with rude, dishonest people.
Oh get over yourself. You're giving up because you have no more argument. You realized you lost so now you're butt hurt about the whole thing.
I didn't insult you or Apple fanboys. I pointed out clearly obvious things, relented when you proved yourself correct, and showed how OP meant his point by using facts.
No. I’m ending this because you’re a liar and are dishonest. Why would anyone continue talking to someone discussing anything in bad faith. The fact that you’re even calling it “giving up” proves you’re a liar.
Where am i being dishonest?