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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Historically there would be many because the poor countries have the most people

[–] malaph@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Take China for example. A middle class person in China today lives like an upper class person compared to the 1700s. A poor person on average anywhere is doing way better than ever before..

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Yes spending most of the day in a factory or a mine and rarely seeing sunlight is definitively like living as a blacksmith 300 years ago (I said blacksmith because it’s under upper class and I assume by middle class you mean office worker not middle income)

Being a farmer is much easier as well now because machines make the work 100x easier and you only have to do 1000x the amount.

Africa has certainly never had stability and the Inca/Mayans/Aztecs certainly had it worse than the rural folk of Central and South America

Remember all those old paintings of kids going through garbage to find things to sell? That’s certainly not a modern phenomenon

What about the people in winter climates that for a large portion couldn’t work in the winter? Yes they still did stuff but it wasn’t 40 hour weeks

[–] yata@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think I get your argument. Poor countries are much more prone to war, unrest, famines and all sorts of things contrary to "comfort and stability".

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am saying that they are less stable now than before colonization

[–] yata@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, but that is the exact opposite of what you were saying in your OP.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Did you get me confused?

My argument is that this isn’t the best century for humans