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[–] c0mpost@lemmy.eco.br 40 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's all about nuclear power. All nations in the Security Council have the power to end civilization with nuclear weapons. That's what this war is about as well, Russia is just showing it can do as it pleases. There can be no democracy with such disparity of bellic power, that's the reason that institution exists and it's foolish to assume Russia could be expelled.

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Then India and North Korea should be on the Security Council 🤷‍♀️

[–] c0mpost@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You have a point. India and Pakistan are out of the Security Council because they are underdeveloped and are busy having their nuclear missiles aimed at each other. North Korea has at most only a couple of ICBMs and is unable to destroy our entire civilization, even though it can create a lot of destruction with those. That is the most troublesome of nations for the UN, because they don't give a fuck about rules and are slowly increasing their bellic power, thus all the fuss about them improving their nuclear program with the help of Russia. Geopolitics is fun.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

Nah the real reason the UNSC seats are what they are is that they're the winners of WWII.

If anything, kick France out because they did fuck all.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nuclear power is unrelated to the security Council permanent members. They were simply the world powers that won WWII. At the time, many of them didn't have nukes yet.

[–] XbSuper@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

May not be how it started, but it's what it's become.

It is, however, one of the reasons people occasionally agitate to remove Russia because it wasn't Russia that won WW2.

It was the USSR, a major component of such being Ukraine.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

There can be no democracy with such disparity of bellic power

You think it's democratic for other nuclear armed countries to lord over the rest, as long as they're not Russia? amerikkka-clap