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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What does being political mean to you?

[–] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

In this context, it's matters related to government, politicians, or the general culture of a country, in which there are two or more major camps of conflicting opinions, where a good deal of people in one or more of those camps view the other camp as evil because of their view.

If the post is in a community where only one of the camps is significantly present, but the post is attacking the other camp, it is still political.

Why do you ask? Are you hoping to expose some inconsistency in my definition? Maybe use it to call something I like political with the expectation that I'll disagree with you? Or were you expecting my definition to be biased, calling something political that shouldn't be, so that you could expose me as a moustache-twirling villain?

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So we can't post memes about ..... checks notes the general culture of our country?

So no memes about anything with literally any specifics.

You realize if you got your wish memses would just be "how many of yall like breathing"

Maybe you could point us to an example of an acceptable meme with no politics involved.

[–] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Earlier in this thread, I said:

We complainers aren’t saying they can’t post about politics, just requesting they post their political memes in the designated political meme space.

I also clarified that it has to be contentious, in a way where people condemn each other for thinking differently.

Here are some non-political memes posted in this community in the past hour:
https://lemmy.ml/post/5184036
https://lemmy.ml/post/5185652
https://lemmy.ml/post/5185650
https://lemmy.ml/post/5186256
https://lemmy.ml/post/5186204

That's 5 of the 6 memes posted in that timespan.

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (21 children)

1 and 3 are pretty directly political lol

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

Here let me give you the codex.

When this person says "political" they mean "things I dont agree with"

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[–] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

First one is about technology and alienation under a capitalist mode of production, discussing work and leisure. That's political.

Third one is about dating and advertisements online, which is related to sexual politics and commodification of sex work online. Political.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (9 children)

You're pretty upset that I asked a question aren't you? I wonder why that is.

Government and politicians I think are pretty self explanatory and I would agree those are inherently political, no argument there.

What do you think is part of a general culture of a country, or not? How would you define culture that has conflicting opinions? Is it solely up to your discretion, or would you agree that if anyone has any disagreement about a meme that would make it automatically political?

Is this one political because it references the FBI, a governmental organization? https://startrek.website/post/1847371 I would argue that it is political.

Is this one political because it references culture related to advertising in capitalism? I would think everyone should agree that any reference to or commentary of an economic system is inherently political because of course economic systems are controversial. I don't see how anyone could argue that references to a combination of two major brands isn't a commentary on marketing: https://programming.dev/post/3200916

I mean this one references politics so it's clearly political right? https://lemm.ee/post/8502748

I'm just curious about what you and others think is political versus not. You can't have a discussion about if something should or should not be allowed if you can't clearly define the boundaries of that thing. I find the discussion around what is and isn't politics to be an interesting one, that's all.

[–] Waker@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I think can answer the memes questions for you.

  1. Non political
  2. Non political
  3. I guess it could be considered political in a way, but it doesn't target a specific party or opinion so I'd let it through.
[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (30 children)

Lmao. The FBI: famously non-political government organization that murders activists as easily as one can breath air.

And Microsoft: famously non-political company that ~~bribes~~ lobbies the u.s government constantly to gain monopoly over their market, works hand-in-hand with federal agencies to monitor system users, and regularly influences city, state, and national politics in the pursuit of subsidies of the American worker in order to further boost their already gross profit margins.

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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

But I think they're political. Is my opinion on what is and is not political invalid for some objective reason?

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[–] Cummunism@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

general culture of a country

youre gonna have to get more specific there. what part of American "culture" grinds your gears and you want to see less of?

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

skibidi toilet memes are american culture and thus political

i don't make the rules