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It's all fun and games until you run to us for bombs π
Which were mostly the product of European minds.
And yet Europe continues to be unable to defend itself and USA leads the way.
Can we not import this braindead rhetoric from reddit too.
Why not? This thread hits literally every other obnoxious take on the topic.
... You really think this place is more enlightened than reddit? It's identical except for the number of people.
I'm not sure if you know this but there is a way going on in Eastern Europe. And if you weren't aware the US is the primary support. More than doubling both humanitarian and weapons aid the EU and individual countries have scrapped together.
I've definitely triggered the EUs in this thread about sneaking Americans π
I believe this is no longer quite true. It's also incredibly petty.
The US is certainly the largest singular military donor, but that should surprise no one. But in terms of longer term support EU countries in Central, Northern Europe and the Baltics are committed to supporting Ukraine and the numbers show it.
https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/
Yeah, and the biggest threat to Europe couldn't invade a corrupt and relatively impoverished country with less than a 10th of its military strength that it shares a border with and has direct rail routes into. And that was before we started to send weapons to Ukraine.
So I'm sure the only thing stopping Putin from taking over Europe isn't the UK, France or Germany, each if which has a military on par with Russia.
Being proud of being the sole reason a proxy war can continue is not a good thing.
That's where you're wrong.
That's what got us Bin Laden, the Balkans wars, and a bunch of horrible terrorism everywhere.
Seriously. Trace what happened to the mujahidin leaders, and the weapons we gave them. I think you'll be surprised at the destruction they wrought all across the globe.
While you're at it, check out what the Ukrainians think the percentage of weapons we are giving them end up getting to the soldiers. Also, check out why they just fired the head of their recruitment centers. Also, the Defense Minister.
I swear, everyone is all like "TANKIE TANKIE" to anyone with an attention span longer than 6 months. Most of them don't even know what that word fucking means.
At least there isn't the stupid "red-brown alliance" smear for anyone that doesn't agree with the literal State departments propaganda. If you were all alive in the 80's, you'd be cheering on the death squad contras, and worshiping Reagan.
Add another tankie to the ban pile
I welcome your hate.
Do you remember when being a liberal meant being anti-war? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
Pretty sure liberals were anti-invasions.
But seeing as the US is usually the one to invade other countries, I understand why some of you see it as "anti-war".
Not flooding the world with weapons we can't control, and not spending the money on the weapons in the first place is intrinsic to domestic policy. The two are not separate.
Oh okay, we'll let Russia and China have their way with eastern Europe then. Fuck those those guys.
Delusional behavior here, π.
It's easy to boast about your country's defenses and what not when your country hasn't been regularly in devastating wars on their own territory.
The USA does have some brilliant minds of it's own, don't get me wrong. But most, if not all technology the USA has is either derived or completely developed by Europe, from Germany, the UK, or even France.
ππ I'm sure it has nothing to do with the anemic funding or the 70 years America has spent making sure it can project power anywhere on the planet.
Good Lord π€£
An american saying "don't come to us for bombs" is like a mexican saying don't come to us for tacos.
I think they're referring to vietnam when the french requested the ? Eisenhower admin to nuke dien-bien-fu.