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I said victims, not allies
are you kidding me? 8 out of 10 Nazi soldiers died on the Eastern front, Soviets are the single greatest bringer of Nazi death that has ever existed
Sure, after 2 years of happy alliance. Stalin doesn't get extra credit for being stabbed in the back by his ally. He still chose to make an alliance with Hitler.
Denna F. Flemming; The Cold War and Its Origins, 1917-1960; Vol 1, 1917-1950; Page 84
All the [the Soviet Union] is just replacing Russia (the author likes using Russia instead of SU), it changes the quote in no way.
Actions speak louder than words. Maybe Stalin gave Czechoslovakia some nice words, but what he did was help Hitler invade Poland as a friend and ally.
Indeed, actions speak louder than words. And what Britain and France did, was help Germany invade Austria, Czechoslovakia, Poland. And ensured Fascism would win in Spain. When Adolf wanted an army, a navy, an airforce, they gave it to him.
Appeasement worked. Germany went to war.
Chamberlain was booted out of office over appeasement. You're still defending Stalin's decision to invade Poland with the Nazis. That's the difference between reasonable people and tankies.
The USSR "invaded" 16 days after the Germans. At that time, there was no Poland. The Government had been interned in Romania.
Why put invaded in quotes? Did it not happen?
The Polish government fled to Romania the day after the Soviets invaded. So yes, there was still a Poland. Just like there was a Poland when the Soviets and the Nazis planned to invade the country and split it amongst themselves.
Right, Seems so. They only passed the Romanian border on the 17th.
What Britain and France did was declare war on Germany after the joint invasion of Poland from Hitler and his Soviet allies.
They did, after they finally realized what they had done. Read The Cold War and Its Origins.
What "they" had done? Are you seriously trying to blame Stalin signing a military alliance with Hitler on Neville Chamberlain being an appeasing dick?
Read a book. I already recommended you one.
A book commonly regarded as Soviet imperial apologia, recommended by a tankie from lemmygrad
In what way is it "commonly regarded"? Where? Who? WTF are you talking about? I genuinely want to know.
Yeah, they were never allies Wiki: Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.
Do you think an evening on Wikipedia to enlighten you might frighten you?
That's exactly the alliance I was referring to, thank you
A non-aggression pact is an alliance now? I guess up means down now as well.
When you split up Poland with someone in a joint military invasion and help support their military with massive economic supplies, yes, you're allies.
That's what I thought.
Yeah when you help the Nazis invade Poland, that's an alliance.
In before "well akshually helping the Nazis was a good thing because the polish were the real Nazis" tankie apologia
Lol cope