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[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It didn't abolish slavery though.

[–] eddie_of_ny@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime

[–] eddie_of_ny@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cherry-picked and taken out of context

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here is the full context which still permits slavery so long as you've done a crime(and what counts as a crime can be modified to get the exact amount of slave labor you need)

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

[–] eddie_of_ny@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] o_d@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] eddie_of_ny@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Now we're just arguing semantics. I'm arguing that the 13th amendment abolished racial slavery in the way we think of racial slavery, like generic, history class, cotton field slavery that supported the south's economy before the civil war. You're arguing that the powers that be essentially found a way to continue slavery under a new guise. That has a lot of merit, its just not what I was talking about in my earlier comments.

Secondly, thanks for proving my point. Look at who the largest demographic is on that chart you posted

Inb4 "but compare the percentage incarcerated to the percentage in the population"

Direct quote from the article: "58.70% of the prison population is white, which includes Hispanic Americans."

Except that most people consider Hispanic ethnically different from your run-of-the-mill white people, and most leftist talk a lot about racial disparity towards Hispanics as being similar to racial disparity against blacks. These are pretty poor statistics to support your argument

[–] o_d@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're arguing semantics. If the US state simply found a work-around to continue racial slavery, then they are still doing racial slavery. Full stop.

I don't get your point on Hispanic Americans being included in that demographic as proving your point. If we consider Hispanics a racial minority, which they are, then these numbers only give further merit to the fact that racial slavery is still practiced in Amerikkka.