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[–] Hanabie@sh.itjust.works 131 points 1 year ago (22 children)

Many European language versions of anime and games are being localized not by translating the original Japanese, but the English.

Lots of translators also seem to use Google or DeepL, which makes the issue even worse.

The English language version often don't even translate, they write their own version, calling it "creative liberty". This leads to a completely different version than what was intended, with others, such as the German or Spanish version, being even further from the original.

That's why claims of people of having "learnt Japanese from anime" are dubious in the best of cases.

Source: Am Japanese, working in game translation in Tokyo. I'm also trilingual, which makes it even worse to watch this. Ignorance is bliss.

[–] RamSwamson@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Well that just sucks. So if you’re a die hard fan of [anime name] and happen to be European how would you find something close to the source material?

I noticed that “creative liberty” first with the Dragonball series. I grew up watching the dubbed versions then one day discovered a little import store that sold tapes of the series with the original dialogue subtitled into English. There were a noticeable amount of differences in the story and it was slightly mind blowing to me at the time.

[–] ayaya@lemdro.id 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It's not exactly what you're looking for but the website https://animelon.com lets you use English and Japanese subtitles at the same time. And you can look at definitions of individual words. It is probably only useful if you are beyond a beginner level though.

I think using Japanese subtitles would be the way to go in general assuming you can read them but have trouble with listening.

[–] RangerAndTheCat@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So I’m old as fuck… did the horriblesubs scene die? They were a bunch of die hard fans encoding subs with direct translations. I appreciated them so much for Knocking on Heavens Door and the complete Cowboy Bebop series 🥹

[–] ayaya@lemdro.id 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All HorribleSubs did was rip directly from Crunchyroll, they didn't do any encoding or translations themselves. And yes they shutdown a few years ago but were immediately replaced by SubsPlease who do the same thing.

Well shit TIL… thanks for the intel friend 🙏🏾

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