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Stop using the word "proletariat" when you clearly do not understand what it means and clearly have not read any of the theory from which the word was popularized
"Proletariat" != "impoverished"
I grew up reading gramsci... You are here claiming that modern version of petite bourgeois are proletariat. We need the "we are not the same" meme.
If you insist on using Marxist terminology, it would greatly benefit you to read some actual Marxist theory. I'm not saying that Gramsci wasn't a Marxist either. He was. You clearly don't understand these terms, however.
To be honest I am relieved to not have your approval on this. You all guys are so completely out of your mind, that agreeing with you would mean something is really wrong with me.
I'll ask my google friends, now that they have suddenly become proletariat, to stop by their proletarian loft by the lake with no offspring whatsoever to arrange seizing the means of production. We'll arrange it between their trip in costa Rica and their Kenyan safari. We wait for their tesla to fully recharge though.
They should first reinvest all their google stocks, as market do not value proletarian revolution, and the stock price might get an hit.
I heard fake communists were a bit crazy around here. But this whole thread is another level crazy
Hey I got a temp ban for my post and username (typical lemmy homophobia) but I wanted to come back and seriously recommend with nothing but civility that you engage with some of the ideas of people who’ve pushed back against you in this comment thread.
When everyone from conservatives to communists are frothing at the mouth it doesn’t mean you’re doing something right, it doesn’t mean the answer is somewhere in the middle and you found it, it means you overlooked a lot of ideas.
For my part, your claim that tech workers aren’t proletarian is absurd on the face of it because that claim denies the nature of tech work and proletarianization. An alarmingly small number of tech workers hail from the places they’re working in, almost all have moved there for the work. Unless everyone moved away from their families and homes because they just love the idea, they were pushed to move by the lack of work. And while you’re happy to put senior engineers in the tech worker category, call center tech support is notably absent in your analysis. Heck, entry level programmers are absent!
Your claims can only be put together as some form of gatekeeping based on aesthetics: they don’t look poor to you so they can’t be proletarian.
If I’m off base I look forward to your response!