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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes they can be the victim of the west and also terrible. But you have to ask yourself if the meddling of the west helped create the conditions for this terribleness. My recollection is that the mullahs staged a revolt to oust a US-installed puppet regime.

[–] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think that question will have a remotely simple answer.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As broadly as I phrased it, it’s really pretty simple. The answer is yes.

[–] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You're right. Did it help? Absolutely. But it's such a complex situation that I reckon no single human fully understands how, or the interplay between that and all of the other factors at play.
And from there, moving towards a place where there is justice/fairness is impossible because a consensus on what that even means is impossible. It's incredibly depressing.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It’s toxic is what it is. You could pour goodness and light into it for a century and the hatred and division would just eat it up and shit it out. The west has fucked the region royally. They’ve also fucked themselves and each other royally.