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And don't forget, that much of what people criticize isn't the language per se, but the community/ecosystem around it.
NPM is objectively bad, but Javascript is by no means coupled to it.
Java projects are often very "verbose", but that's a choice by the developer of the libraries and apps, not so much Java itself.
Ecosystems matter, though. In fact, I think they're the hardest part to learn for most languages.
You can try to get away from NPM, but you'll always run across instructions on how to do a thing in NPM. Do it any other way, and you're on your own.
You can try to write Java in a less verbose way, but the standard library will fight you before we even talk about third party libs.
I never argued, that they don't matter.