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Edit: Surprised at all the vegans in this thread. I didn't think there were so many of you. I'm glad you care so much about animal rights, that you're willing to forego eating them and using products made from them. If you're not vegan and have moral objections for this, maybe you should look at yourself first and all the animal abuse you sanction by eating animals and using animal products. Did you know dairy cows have to be pregnant to produce milk? They're artificially inseminated throughout most of their lives. I hope everyone complaining about this also complains about ice cream and cheese. Or else they would be hypocrites who just want to blame others but never look at themselves.

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[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The comment section is laughable. I hope none of you or your loved ones will need an organ transplant in the future, since it's better to be put on a waiting list and cross your fingers that you won't die before an organ is available, since cattle is oh-so-important and precious.

[–] whiskers@lemmings.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cattle are important and precious. There are already immoral practices brought by capitalism while raising animals for slaughter. This doesn't imply that it's moral to now bring an animal to life just to steal its organs as well.

Organ transplant can be achieved artificially by just developing the organs themselves in the lab. There already has been work done in that regard.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

important and precious

They'd literally be extinct if not for domestication. They evolved to be slow, stupid, and delicious

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They were literally force breed by humans. They did not "evolve" to be like that.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Gonna play a drinking game with all the people who don't understand that force breeding does indeed evolve a creature.

One drink for every person confidently stating inaccuracies about this. So far I'm at 4.

Going to a cookout, so the beers will go great with the burgers.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, it is (artificial) selection but not evolution.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Artificial selection is a potential mechanism of evolution.

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Artificial Evolution is still Evolution. Selective breeding and genetic manipulation just speed it up a few thousand years.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, it's breeding. Maybe brush up on your biology buddy.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 4 points 1 year ago

selective breeding still results in evolution, its just the result of artificial rather than natural selection

[–] whiskers@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stupidity clearly doesn't belong only in cattle.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

Yeah it also belongs to vegans

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m not going to say this is immoral but it does reveal how little we care about animals when we are willing to farm organs across species, which has got to be more difficult. It’s something we would never consider doing with humans but will be willing to bend over backward to do with animals., and then vociferously defend it online. It’s just revealing, that’s all. Animals have zero moral standing in our society. None.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Weird take, it's like you're conflating acceptable losses and apathy.

Scientists would use human embryos, if given the ability to. Unfortunately there are people who believe that life happens the moment a man injects his baby batter into a woman's love tunnel.

These are why people kill animals for this, not because they "don't give a shit about animals".

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Very weird. It’s like you told me I was wrong and then repeated what I said. There’s an obviously massive difference in value placed on humans and animals here. Is that less confusing?

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

We would absolutely consider doing this with humans. We actually DO this with humans. Skin grafts, organ transplants.