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A private vpn is an oxymoron. Since you tunnel all your data to some server.
Google and privacy is an oxymoron.
"Google private vpn" would be a mega oxymoron.
Not really. What if it's your VPN? Mine allows me access to my home network, which is its primary focus, but it also obfuscates what my phone is doing online, and blocks trackers.
(Adguard home and wireguard)
It also lets me use my phone on 4chan... so there's that.
Commercial services have tainted the word for sure.
You're right, but there are definitely good ones out there
If you're of the few people on earth to care enough and knows enough to set it's own vpn, sure. but otherwise, NordVPN gonna still sponsor youtubers and lure people into a false sense of privacy.
Strps to set up my own VPN:
It’s that simple. If you don’t have your own firewall, you can just deploy Tailscale on all devices you want to be able to communicate with each other, which uses Wireguard under the hood.
As someone who manages a tailscale network at my work...I just want to point out that tailscale is a tiny bit more complicated than just downloading and installing. Not much but...
That said the ability to automate wireguard connections is wonderful and everyone should check it out.
I thought Nord was one of the ones that doesn't keep activity logs, no?
I don't have any evidence to the contrary, but in general it's suspicious when a company markets features like that so hard when there's no reliable way an outsider can verify that the claim is accurate (still)
I remember this, and a quick google corroborates, that they've had 3 independent 3rd party audits and have been verified each time as not keeping activity logs. I think they're one of the good ones.
Oxycontonic even.
Buddy, I wish 😮💨
No, you don’t.
Really, I do 🪡
“Private” in “virtual private network” means “routed by different rules”. It’s the same “private” that’s in “private Internet Protocol addresses”.
It was never about personal privacy.
It's an oximoron in every company which make money with surveillance advertisings. Google undoubtedly has apps and services with a very high quality and often without real competition or alternative, but this has a very high cost and if the main income, apart from some paid services, is based on selling user data to advertising companies, it is logical and almost inevitable that it becomes a data moloch that uses any dirty trick to obtain these. It is an axiom: power corrupts
Mozilla now regrets having signed with Google as a sponsor and is now trying to get out of this contract, especially since Google plans to introduce this WEI DRM, but Alphabet is not doing this the easy way and Mozilla depends a lot on this money to maintain its infrastructure. We will see what comes of this, but it is really urgent that Mozilla changes its business model, it would be very desirable and necessary.
Moral: If you want to maintain your independence and freedom, do not accept outside investors
It was an Interesting read, thanks
yeah, an oxy-unbelievably-dense-motherfucker
Sir, we reached critical mass, It's turning into a black hole !
tunnel all your data through a very special GOOGLE server.