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[–] SCB@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not self-important or pretentious, so no, we have to concede that it isn't part of traditional French culture.

It is, however, part of the culture of these French people.

[–] gnygnygny@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Above all, it is an attack on secularism.

France is the country of human rights, it protects by the right of asylum any person who is the victim of persecution in his country. The School of the Republic allows any dress, as long as it is not proselytising.

This prohibition is not compatible with private life, freedom of religion, the right to education and the principle of non-discrimination. This dress is part of a logic of religious affirmation. It is compulsory for women in Qatar. There is no evidence that a student in France is forced or not to wear the abaya.

This story of the abaya illustrates a question that runs through the whole of society: the question of boundaries. It seems increasingly difficult to impose rules, to apply them, without running the risk of being accused of authoritarianism.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If someone wearing religious garb is an attack on secularism, your institutions suck and that's where your focus should be.

[–] gnygnygny@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't see any argument in your comment.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm saying France's institutions either can handle religious garb, in which case they are needlessly persecuting people, which is objectively evil, or they can't, in which case the French are focusing on the wrong things and should fix their institutions.

[–] gnygnygny@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nobody is persecuted.

67 women did refused took off their abaya.There is about 3 millions students in France. They still can join religious private schools if they don't want to go to the public school.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When one person's liberty is denied, everyone is persecuted.

[–] gnygnygny@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't read what i wrote nobody is persecuted.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm paraphrasing civil rights legend Fannie Lou Hammer because I think this oppression is equally disgusting.

[–] gnygnygny@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

it's totally irrelevant in context.