I think he lost golden child status a long while back. I mean he's still one of ours but I'd lock him up for 175 years just for his role in the 2016 election. Fuck head.

[–] Zippy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think the guy is pretty slimy but did he release any information that were lies?

Also does lying even constitute anything illegal?

Suggesting to lock someonen up for centuries because you don't like his political position reminds me of someone.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He selectively released information in such a way and at such a time as to tip the election to Trump.

It's not a lie but it's undue influence.

[–] Zippy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nothing illegal about that. Just slimy because he claimed to be the bastion of Truth.

Politicians are going to only release negative details about opposition's as well. I don't think there is some law you need to support a certain philosophy.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't say it was illegal?

He's a fuck head and I couldn't care less if he rots in jail.

[–] Zippy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I do. I care about injustice. Even those that are fuck heads. I am not a Trump supporter that thinks justice for one but not others.

[–] zephyreks@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, because it's Assange's fault that Clinton spent more effort trying to take down Sanders than on campaigning against Trump.

She ran a garbage campaign because polling said she was way ahead of Trump when she wasn't.

If you think that journalists should hold back information because it might impact politics, I'm really not sure how to talk to you.

[–] rcbrk@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Quoting from https://lemmy.ml/comment/3470836 (@JoeBidet@lemmy.ml):

Wait.

1/ publishing evidence of the Clinton campaign actively undermining Sanders who was then the natural candidate of the Democrats according to their internal polls (including by using antisemitic slur) + actively boosting Trump campaign because “it’s the only one we can beat” is “throwing the US presidential election to the Republicans”? How this genuine, authenticated information of public interest, published in the New York Times and WaPo is throwing the US elections more than the facts that were being reported?

2/ “worked with Russian intelligence” is absolute nonsense. What is your source on that? The Muller report says the opposite. If anything it is possible (but not proven) that the source may have been from within Russian intel, but a) Assange mentioned several times -way before that episode- that the entire architecture of WL made it impossible for them to actually know their sources, and we have all reasons to believe that (as it would be the smartest thing to do) b) if any journalist gets documents that are authentic and of public interest, regardless of the source, their duty is to publish it. If a Russian intelligence source had provided fake, doctored or otherwise altered material, and they would have been published as such, it would have been a real scandal. In the facts we are still talking of ground-breaking journalism.

I still can’t figure that some people cannot realize that Hillary Clinton did all she could to actually lose this election on her own (this and a fundamentally fucked up electoral system), and are actually finding scapegoats like Assange to avoid looking at this reality in the eyes…