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[–] ipha@lemm.ee 70 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Better than counting curly braces.

[–] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] TheGreenGolem@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Me too, any day. I hate everything where indentation matters. Let me just throw my garbage there and YOU sort it out, you are the fucking computer, not me. You do the work.

So fuck you, YAML! All my homies love JSON!

[–] KIM_JONG@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

All your homies hate comments.

[–] TheGreenGolem@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

My code also documents itself, of course.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah Yaml is nicer than json, but I’m not into the Python indenting at all.

[–] JonEFive@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

I'm here to spread the good word about JSONC. It is the way and everyone should adopt it in place of JSON wherever possible.

[–] wols@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup.

Spaces? Tabs? Don't care, works regardless.
Copied some code from somewhere else? No problem, 9/10 times it just works. Bonus: a smart IDE will let you quick-format the entire code to whatever style you configured at the click of a button even if it was a complete mess to begin with, as long as all the curly braces are correct.

Also, in any decent IDE you will very rarely need to actually count curly braces, it finds the pair for you, and even lets you easily navigate between them.

The inconsistent way that whitespace is handled across applications makes interacting with code outside your own code files incredibly finicky when your language cares so much about the layout.

There's an argument to be made for the simplicity of python-style indentation and for its aesthetic merits, but IMO that's outweighed by the practical inconvenience it brings.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

But, nobody ever copies code from Stack Overflow!

[–] 30p87@feddit.de 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Even vim can show you that
^(fucking nano user)

[–] UndefinedIsNotAFunction@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's a joke here about using echo "some python code" > main.py in here somewhere but I can't find it. Imagine I did instead.

[–] thanevim@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Import python.Joke.ShellProgramming()

[–] grozzle@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

"the punchline is clearly trivial, the set-up is left as an exercise for the reader"

[–] Overshoot2648@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] 30p87@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is mirco a little man sitting on your SSD flipping bits manually as you dictate him?

[–] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

No that's macro. Micro is when small gnomes sit inside your HDD and moving the read/write head around manually.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

if you have to count the curly braces I understand why you are a python developer

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't usually count them. They just have to form a neat diagonal.

[–] Reptorian@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

Also, highlighted the way you expect when you click next to braces works too.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 year ago
[–] shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] EvokerKing@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because Python uses indentation instead of curly brackets, which is why this meme exists. Also jetbrains ide s like pycharm and webstorm do all of this for you.

[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even the mosy basic text editors does indentation for you, not even an IDE needed

[–] EvokerKing@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not as good as jetbrains does, it automatically does things like realign when you paste things and lots of little things that improve the coding experience by a lot.

[–] fidodo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Have you tried using an auto formatter? Let's you write code however and fixes the structure automatically on save. It's way easier for me to write curly braces then hit ctrl+s than have to select multiple lines manually and tab in and out. I feel the biggest gains I've made in productivity came after I learned to embrace tooling.