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Social media seems to be laughing its ass off about this tragedy, is it because the folks at burning man are perceived as frivolous hippies or something? Everyone I’ve ever met who was a regular burning man attendee has been a solid human being with strong morals, personally and financially responsible, a career. Upstanding members of society for sure. I guess all some people know is the sensationalized drugs and sex. A person died. This is a tragedy for an event that brings positivity into the world. Kind of annoyed.

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[–] Battle_Masker@lemmy.world 145 points 1 year ago (6 children)

aside from the obvious "rich people exploiting the environment with their hippy party that costs $200 for their cheapest tickets," I saw a video online that brought up a good point that I never considered. The cost of lumber has increased exponentially in the past 3 years alone, jumping to nearly $1700 per 1000 feet at its peak in 2021, but staying between $400 and $600 per 1000 feet in recent months (still high compared to say 10 years ago.) And these people are buying tens of thousands of feet of lumber solely to burn it away in the middle of nowhere where there's little vegetation to absorb the excess CO2 waste. That, along with the climate change protesters being police brutalized just before the event, really puts a sour taste in people's mouths. Especially in a time where "once in a lifetime" weather events seem to be back-to-back.

economic data from: https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/lumber

[–] xatlw@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tickets cost about 10x that. I was interested back when it was a cool art exchange, freedom event. But SO many people flock to it as a giant party that it's become restrictive unless your volunteering or bringing an exhibit.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

From old burners I have talked to, the entire experience has completely changed. Alcohol used to be frowned upon, now it's common place.

[–] kitos@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sincerely with rocket launches now being a daily thing i'm not very worried by that burning lumber.

[–] Apollo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Rockets mostly use hydrogen as fuel, burning wood is way more polluting than burning hydrogren.

[–] heird@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Yesterday in the US it was labour day, 100 of millions of Americans has a BBQ many using coal and wood the impact of burning man is insignificant in comparison

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Also John Wilson tried to go shoot at the event and after compiling hours of footage was told that he couldn't use any of it because there was some exclusive licensed coverage provider for the event.

[–] Pipoca@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And these people are buying tens of thousands of feet of lumber solely to burn it away in the middle of nowhere where there's little vegetation to absorb the excess CO2 waste.

That's not really how plants work.

Photosynthesis turns co2 + water into sugar + oxygen. Cellular respiration turns sugar + oxygen into co2 + water.

The total co2 absorbed by a plant is exactly equal to the amount of co2 used to make all the sugar, cellulose, etc. the plant currently has. Digestion, decomposition, fires etc. undo that.

A mature forest or lawn is carbon neutral: new growth is balanced out by decomposition of old growth.

Distance to plants doesn't matter. What matters is if and how the trees they're burning are being replanted or replaced. .

[–] Battle_Masker@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the correction. That helps me better understand how counteracting pollution works