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The use of depleted uranium munitions has been fiercely debated, with opponents like the International Coalition to Ban Uranium Weapons saying there are dangerous health risks from ingesting or inhaling depleted uranium dust, including cancers and birth defects.

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[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Ukraine turned into the most corrupt country in Europe, and things have only kept getting worse.

Ukraine and Russia both did. One of them is making efforts to get out of that swamp.

I find it rather telling that of all the things you found weak retorts for, you completely left out the "More petrorubles for the kleptocrats" part, and how GDP is not a proper measure of the wealth of a people, at least in any even remotely leftist sense.

Ask Tuvans without access to electricity, running water, heck even a fucking gas station, how wealthy they are. Yet they're not even counted as poor in the official statistics as the way poverty is counted in Russia is highly regional: If you're poor in Moscow you count, if you're infinitely worse off in the periphery you don't.

That is why you see Russian soldiers -- primarily from the periphery as joining the army is the only way to make any money as there's no actual jobs -- looting toilets. Fucking toilets. Back in WWII it was water faucets. Nothing the fuck has changed in that regard.

If you think that Putin is "draining the swamp" then you're no less naive than your run off the mill Trumpet.

(Side note, speaking of WWII: Remember that Soviet flag on the Reichstag picture? That's of a Ukrainian. Taken by a Ukrainian).

[–] pelikan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Looting toilets" is the funniest part. Do you really believe that Ukraine is such pauper country that invading soldiers couldn't loot anything more valuable than used toilets from occupied cities? It's required to have literally zero critical thinking in order not to understand that this is propagandistic bullshit.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

People take PCs, jewellery, and smartphones with them when fleeing. You usually leave the toilet behind.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

One of them is making efforts to get out of that swamp.

You must be referring to Russia here given that this is what's happening in Ukraine right now

I find it rather telling that of all the things you found weak retorts for, you completely left out the “More petrorubles for the kleptocrats” part, and how GDP is not a proper measure of the wealth of a people, at least in any even remotely leftist sense.

There is zero indication to suggest that regular people in Russia are significantly effected in any way right now. Cost of food, housing, and other essentials has stayed stable.

That is why you see Russian soldiers – primarily from the periphery as joining the army is the only way to make any money as there’s no actual jobs – looting toilets. Fucking toilets. Back in WWII it was water faucets. Nothing the fuck has changed in that regard.

I mean if that's what you've convinced yourself of then what else is there to say to you.

If you think that Putin is “draining the swamp” then you’re no less naive than your run off the mill Trumpet.

No, I don't think Putin is draining any swamp, but I do think he runs a far more competent administration than western oligarchs.

(Side note, speaking of WWII: Remember that Soviet flag on the Reichstag picture? That’s of a Ukrainian. Taken by a Ukrainian).

And now thanks to the help from the west Ukraine is run by literal fascists. Maybe something you should reflect on.

In any case, this conversation is clearly pointless since you evidently live in an alternate reality. I'll just let you figure things out on your own and reconcile the fantasies you've built up with the real world as it becomes increasingly more difficult to ignore going forward.