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The use of depleted uranium munitions has been fiercely debated, with opponents like the International Coalition to Ban Uranium Weapons saying there are dangerous health risks from ingesting or inhaling depleted uranium dust, including cancers and birth defects.

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[–] CombatLiberalism@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Every person involved in making this decision deserves to be buried in an unmarked grave with the weapons they love so much. How many innocent people completely uninvolved with the war are going to grow up suffering the effects of depleted uranium rounds? Another absolutely monstrous decision in a long line of monstrous decisions by the US government.

[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yes, we get it, the response to literally every decision you don't like is massacre of the people you don't like

[–] CombatLiberalism@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Are you aware of what depleted uranium does to the human body? Innocent people are going to be dealing with the consequences of a decision made by a handful of people across the planet for decades after the war ends. Does poisoning generations of people sound like "defending" Ukrainians to you?

[–] letsgocrazy@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

But Depleted uranium isn't enriched uranium.

You're lying.

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 66 points 1 year ago

depleted uranium is a radioactive carcinogen, and linked to substantial increases in birth defects and cancer in Iraq

[–] CombatLiberalism@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who said it was? It's still an environmental contaminant, a carcinogen, and linked to a rise in birth defects after its use in Iraq

It's use will have consequences far outside of the conflict and ruin the lives of who knows how many people who had absolutely no say in this war and I'm supposed to cheer it on?

[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, but why are you upset about this particular heavy metal as opposed to all the others involved in weapons?

[–] CombatLiberalism@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The op is specifically about depleted uranium but hey, if you want to make the case that we shouldn't be sending weapons to Ukraine in the first place I'm not going to argue against it shrug-outta-hecks

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[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

Depleted uranium is still a very dangerous heavy metal. It just doesn't irradiate what it poisons.

[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)
  1. Yes, I'm aware of the effects of depleted uranium on the human body; are you? 2) What would you propose to help Ukraine evict the genocidal invaders from its territory?
[–] PandaBearGreen@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now we're just throwing genocide into the mix?

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[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Non radioactive munitions.

Show this thread to someone from the 1980s and they would kill themselves. Mainly over your shit

[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What a compelling response 🙄

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No analysis, just vibes. Gonna go genocide some mashed potatoes rn

[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just stepped in someones front yard without permission, which is technically an invasion, and ive been told this is tantamount to genocide. Am I an imperialist war criminal, Hexbear?

[–] Cigarette_comedian@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

Guilty of all charges. peppino-snitch

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[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

What would you propose to help Hawaii evict genocidal invaders from its territory?

[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Seeing one thing Hm, this is like every thing

-The Eternal Lib

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[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do you think should be done with war profiteers that destroy societies for money?

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[–] flying_monkies@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

It's a tankie, that's their answer to everything they can't strawman around.

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[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

They aren't that dangerous as a weapon of war. The uranium is depleted, as the name suggest. The alternative is heavy metal, which is also dangerous to breathe in. It's war and it sucks for health. Maybe there shouldn't have been an invasion...

[–] Babs@hexbear.net 66 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7903104/ this shit is still causing birth defects in Iraq. This is Ukraine's future now.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

And so do other heavy metals. What do you suggest they use that won't have negative health impacts (which is ironic for something designed to kill, but whatever)?

[–] CombatLiberalism@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any heavy metal causes similar issues. Heavy metal will be used, whether it's uranium or something else. Should they just stop shooting?

[–] CombatLiberalism@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unironically yes. A peace deal was in the works last year until, according to the Ukranian Pravda, Boris Johnson pressured Zelensky not to go through with it. This would have stopped the fighting and resulted in some withdrawal of Russian troops, but since the West is more interested in weakening their geopolitical rivals and helping the weapons industry rake in profit than ending the war, they squashed any possibility of that happening.

[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago

No, Ukraine didn't want to give up but they were becoming desperate. Boris Johnson came in to let them know the West was finally willing to offer some support. Ukraine giving up would not have resulted in the withdrawal of russian troops from their newly conquered territory

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Uranium is a very dangerous heavy metal, it just isn't radioactive.

[–] MoreAmphibians@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Depleted Uranium is definitely radioactive. It's depleted but there are still radioactive isotopes in it. It's relatively same to handle until it's fired and some of it turns to dust. The dust is both poisonous and radioactive. The toxicity of it is probably worse than the radiation but they're both still bad.

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

The radioactivity is a problem its just like, not significant compared. Sorry my b

[–] CombatLiberalism@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nowhere did I make the claim that it was, that doesn't change a thing

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm replying to the person replying to you

[–] CombatLiberalism@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

My bad, I got the colors of the bars mixed up

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