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[–] arefx@lemmy.ml 62 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah I'm not getting in a car driven by AI. The tech ain't where it needs to be for that.

[–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago

It needs to be regulated to hold manufacturers responsible when their software isn't good enough. My understanding is that there already probably is enough regulation and government agencies just need to hold Tesla accountable.

Personally, I'm all for cars driven by AI iff it's better and safer than a human driver. Human drivers make a lot of mistakes and driving is the most dangerous everyday activity many people do. But if the AI isn't better than a human, that's a problem. I don't need AI drivers to be flawless, as that's an unrealistic bar. I just need them to be undeniably better than humans. Everything I'm hearing about Tesla's self driving is that they aren't.

[–] DSX@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Especially Tesla. I am very into computer vision research but I would never trust a vehicle that relies on only that with 0 LIDAR or other sensing technologies in place.

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Great news. You don't have to. The other people around you moving thousands of pounds of steel will be relying completely on that, and there is nothing you can do to stop it.

[–] mriguy@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately you can still be hit by cars that idiots let the AI drive.

[–] arefx@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Thats why I drive defensively and look both ways before I cross a street.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm convinced that the self-driving AI from competent companies is better than human drivers already. The bar isn't perfection, the bar is the average driver, and the average driver is bad.

Having said that, I'd never get in a car with Tesla's self-driving solution. Musk polluted the term "full self-driving" to cars that definitely weren't.

[–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

No, the bar is accountability. If the FSD screws up either:

  1. It's claimed the driver was responsible, in which case it's absolutely not FSD
  2. Someone other than the driver is investigated and cleared/convicted of wrong doing.

It absolutely does not matter that it's better than an "average" driver. If the best driver in the world screws up, they are still held accountable.