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[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 95 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

OP determining whether to believe the US about socialist movements

us-foreign-policy

Also look up double genocide theory and stop trivializing the holocaust by calling communists fascists.

[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OP is not calling communists fascists. OP is calling the dictators pretending to be communist, fascists!

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The initial meme included basically all communist countries, they mean communists.

Also which communist countries had dictators again?

[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The initial meme included basically all communist countries

This meme is against the initial meme.

Also which communist countries had dictators again?

China, North Korea

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This meme is against the initial meme.

The initial meme made fun of being against those countries as a socialist. This meme is against that idea. Ergo...

China, North Korea

When?

[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When?

Always has been. Government taking control of every action of citizens is dictatorship. Theese people have total power of the country

.....Ergo...

What??

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Always has been. Government taking control of every action of citizens is dictatorship. Theese people have total power of the country

The DPRK and China both don't have parties that are in any way capable of controlling every action of their citizenry. They both have massive grassroots democratic institutions. Hell, look up whole process peoples democracy and the taean work system.

what

The initial meme made fun of being against those countries as a socialist. This meme is against that idea. Ergo... the meme is against all those socialist countries.

[–] xor@infosec.pub 1 points 8 months ago

no way you're trying to pretend like dprk is a free country...

go ask some refugees what it's like

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sorry, who were the communists during the holocaust?

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Do you mean the german ones thrown in the camps or the soviet leadership who were the last of the eventual allied powers to do any sort of appeasement with Hitler (after exhausting all attempts to form an alliance with Britain and France) because communism is less aligned with fascist goals than liberalism is aligned with fascist goals, massive underexageration mine? Do you mean the communist low level officials who helped in a massive ethnic relocation program to move vulnerable minorities out of the way of the eventual german invasion? Or do you mean the population of the only communist nation which lost 26 million people, around 1/6th of their population, stopping the holocaust?

Or were you referring to the joke about racism? If so, you gotta look up how the population of the USSR was not considered white at the time. Emma Goldman for example basically called Stalin a slanty eyed conniving Asian, for example. Nowadays slavs are still called orcs and shit by westerners.

[–] Flinch@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...

First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me