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[–] axont@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

us-foreign-policy

Westerners deciding who's doing real socialism or not. Westerners expressing their most vile sentiment for foreign countries rather than their own imperialism. Westerners praising the words of their own imperialist intelligence agencies. Westerners unironically praising their own nations for civil liberties like the freedom of fascists to assemble, freedom of racists to express themselves, freedom of parents to own their children, and freedom of school districts to continue racial segregation. Westerners praising imperialist nations like Norway as socialist while using bold language like fascism to describe places under that same exact threat of imperialism, like Cuba and Vietnam.

Westerners claiming foreign governments are merely pretending to be socialist, while claiming unorganized misinformed chauvinistic westerners are the true heirs to socialism, despite all they do is post online and complain about foreign nations.

Westerners praising anarchist movements from 100 years ago despite having no common cause with those movements, no connection to the circumstances within them, and probably no actual admiration of them. Westerners praising a bastardized, sectarian, perverse form of anarchism rather than attempting unity with organizations in their areas. Westerners refusing to speak with actual anarchists in their area, who by and large don't give a shit and just want to hand out food or help at shelters. If Buenaventura Durruti were alive today he'd be regarded with scorn by western chauvinists.

Westerners continuing to bring up Trotsky of all people, who wasn't relevant to world affairs for the last 15 years of his life and certainly not the past 80 years. Westerners not reading a single word of Trotsky's work, westerners focusing entirely on Trotsky's feud with Stalin, westerners not knowing that Trotsky was a literal military commander. Westerners calling themselves Trotskyists in 2023 for some reason. Westerners deciding they have a feud with Joseph Stalin, a man who died in 1953.

Westerners attempting to praise their own socialist leadership, who happen to be a scattered group of imperialist-aligned social democrats, Twitch streamers, and actual antisemitic grifters such as in the case of Caleb Maupin.

[–] PatFussy@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Its hard to challenge your opinions when you gish gallup 500 talking points

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago (42 children)

You gish galloped, you ad homin-ed, you no true scotsman-ed, you one true scotsman-ed, and then you mot and bailey-ed.

Checkmate sir smuglord

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[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago (28 children)

500 talking points and you couldn't find a single thing to call into question

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[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago (13 children)

If their post is short, accuse them of not engaging properly.

If their post is long, accuse them of gish gallop.

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[–] axont@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

It's hard to challenge my opinions because I'm cool as hell and I exude a pleasant aroma mondays

[–] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

Nobody's interested in becoming an anti-communist. It's you who must change your opinions because they are wrong

[–] raven@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

We're talking about 6 countries and at least 5 people in the first place, and that's only the ones named. Sorry, reality is complicated like that.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Warning: this is a hexbear user

[–] axont@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago

Warning: 🚨 ⚠️ Hexbearian detected! Everyone, into the posting bunkers! bunker

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago (36 children)

But is warning morally justified?

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