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The technical merits of Wayland are mostly irrelevant (utcc.utoronto.ca)
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I say that the technical merits are irrelevant because I don't believe that they're a major factor any more in most people moving or not moving to Wayland.

With only a slight amount of generalization, none of these people will be moved by Wayland's technical merits. The energetic people who could be persuaded by technical merits to go through switching desktop environments or in some cases replacing hardware (or accepting limited features) have mostly moved to Wayland already. The people who remain on X are there either because they don't want to rebuild their desktop environment, they don't want to do without features and performance they currently have, or their Linux distribution doesn't think their desktop should switch to Wayland yet.

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[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

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[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure but the people behind X11 are the same ones behind Wayland so when the develpers didn't think it was worth the time to fix X11 and it would be better to start a new project to fix the issues. How can end users think we should just fix X11 make anysense? I think their biggest mistake is they should have called Wayland X12 or something like that.

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

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[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

X11 has decades of tooling that doesn’t work on Wayland anymore.

Wayland 1.0 was released in 2012, though.

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[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s not necessarily a bad thing, but it does break some workflows.

11 years after Wayland 1.0 and 7 years after Gnome 3.22 were released.

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[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

11 years after the majority of Linux users didn’t notice anything and stuck with X11

All major distributions default to Gnome Wayland since years and since last year's Steam Deck release, even millions of super casual gamers use Wayland without even knowing what a display server is.