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[–] wet_lettuce@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why does everything need to be free searchable on the internet?

Call me crazy but I don't want my group chats publicly available on the internet. Discord feels... private. I know they have access to all the data, but it's not like a public website, forum, or even an open irc chatroom. It's my walled garden to chat with friends, stream games, game chat, post dumb memes, etc.

That's like saying signal is cancer to free and open internet. Or hell, email because it's not indexed and searchable?

I don't get the sentiment.

[–] crius@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is not how it's been used for the vast majority.

Companies and big communities use it as a forum, sharing knowledge more or less important.

For example, i dabble in modding games, nowadays i need to join a game discord server and ask there hoping that someone is kind enough to repeat for the nth time something asked already, probably several time a week.

Most often than not, you don't get an answer due to several factors, one of which is that if you ask when the people that can help are not online, nobody answer really.

On a forum you could have searched your question and find some answer anyway.

THAT is a very big problem. Knowledge is walled in and the search provided is the equivalent of digging in the sand with a spoon.

[–] hal@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

undefined> Why does everything need to be free searchable on the internet?

imagine everything is behind a gateway of account + phone number. you wouldn't be here on Lemmy because you would've never heard about it and couldn't search about it, or reddit etc.

It's not hard to get your head around why searching the internet is the most important part to get things going. You wouldn't get ANY information if you need to get your phone number out for every single site/forum/whatever.

And if you have no experience with Discord and how it evolved over the last years, I can't help you. Discord already replaces many sites and forums, or give support via Discord only... now these things are no longer searchable because people somehow like to idle in Discord servers and search for things in there.

If you can't see the issue with this, even right now already and especially in the future if it continous like that, then I can't help you, sorry.

[–] wet_lettuce@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

You cherry picked one line of my post and didn't address the entire context or intent of it. Im not defending companies or businesses using discord as a drop in replacement for forums or support pages. Imo that's a mis use of the tech.

I think that's stupid.

But discord isn't designed for that. It's a chat app (voice and text). I don't want my chats with friends publicly searchable on the internet. That's dumb. Having my emails publically searchable on the internet is dumb too.

If a company started using Signal or Whatsapp for support, would you be clamoring for all signal and Whatsapp messages to be searchable on the internet?

That doesn't make any sense. You seem more upset that companies are misusing Discord than mad at Discord.

people don't just use discord for private communication, and that's what should be searchable. also, you do realize that discord doesn't feature any encryption and some people can read your "private" messages, right?