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[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago

It doesn’t leave only negotiations. Russia tried for 10+ years in Afghanistan. The US the same, there and in Vietnam. There is such as giving up and going home. That’s the “win” a small state can inflict on a large one. I don’t think that’s where Ukraine and Russia is headed, but there’s a quick for Ukraine and a slow “win” for Ukraine.

[-] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

Wait, so your ideal is instead of negotiations, in the same vein as Afghanistan, Ukraine experiences this horrible war for another 9 years and then becomes a state ruled by the fighters involved in the war with the most extremist far right ideology rule it as a theocracy? To be clear that ideology in this case is Nazism.

You don't sound like an ally of the Ukrainian people.

[-] ToxicDivinity@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

Yeah why negotiate now while we still have hundreds of thousands of lives to throw into the meat grinder.

[-] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago

Yes, that's exactly Putin's reasoning. Glad you figured that out.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

You're in a thread about Ukraines failed counteroffensive

[-] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 year ago

You do realise that it was Ukraine who refuesed to negotiate and not the other way around? Also, mind reminding me who it is that is performing a failing counteroffensive?

[-] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

You don't make any sense man. I feel like you're all red in the face when you write these nonsensical replies.

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So in your mind there's no situation where ukraine doesn't win this war?

[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

For sure there’s a real risk Ukraine isn’t winning this war. But there’s never been a war where there’s absolute certainty one side will win, until we get to the “downfall” times.

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

So you think they should just keep sending conscripts to die until the downfall times or until Russia just decides to leave?

You think Russia should keep sending conscripts to die or should they just leave?

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

They can just keep sending missiles and artillery shells to die, they've got the initiative rn

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