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More modern and in some cases better performance (as if Xorg performance were bad ... but hey)
Basically none of your current software works out of the box (you'll need a special Xorg implementation that works with your Wayland implementation in order to run non-Wayland applications). Most applications are specific to your Wayland implementation instead of a general application that runs in all environments.
I did not find one single floating WM that is as good as Openbox for Xorg. Also: Screen recording with OBS is problematic in some constellations.
Ok it's true that op would need XWayland for some things, but that will be installed alongside the rest of the Wayland packages, and will run seamlessly.
This isn't true. Some applications will use features that aren't available in all Wayland compositors, but they are rare. The main offenders are apps that interact with other apps, apps that take screenshots or record, or apps that draw outside of a window (like docks).
I've never seen any distro with Wayland that didn't have XWayland set up and working out of the box, so that's not something the end user needs to worry about. And "Basically None" is also not true anymore. Practically anything made with GTK3/4, Qt5/6, SDL2, recent Electron versions etc. natively runs on Wayland. It's mostly games, Wine and a lot of proprietary software that doesn't.
Wdym by that exactly? I mean, a KDE application will run just fine on GNOME or Wlroots compositors.
XWayland doesn't mixed/high DPI properly anywhere but under KDE >= 5.26. On Void I found Plasma's Wayland implementation somewhat flakey and sway completely useless as it didn't handle scaling + xwayland.
Have you tried labwc
I did. It misses (or missed?) most of the functionality I use with Openbox.
Especially the menu stuff makes me not wanting to use it. Since my Openbox menu uses icons for 100% of the entries and 95% of the menus come from pipe menus this is an absolute deal breaker.