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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I still don't really know what it is. Because it seems to have random generation so that makes me think it's just going to be another no man's sky.

The big problem with randomly generating a bazillion planets is they're all boring. Random terrain generation will always result in dull terrain because an algorithm isn't creative, it's not even AI level aware, it's just maths.

[–] oxideseven@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm excited for it because Bethesda. I've always put hundreds of hours into their games despite all the ranting and raving.

I'm definitely a bit worried for the same reason as you are though. I think those are likely filler exploration radiant quest type stuff. I'm cautiously hopeful that the story is good and long and deep enough to keep me playing though.

Plus come on... space and customer ship! :D

[–] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I have thousands of hours in Bethesda games. Something about sneaking around murdering bandits, mutants, mythical beasts, heavily armored soldiers, etc. especially sniping them with a bow in Skyrim and watching everyone run around like "who shot Steve in the face!?", that was just... chef's kiss. That and finding something interesting around every corner, and just the visual aspect of it. It's hard to explain but there is a certain Bethesda magic that no other game really captures. Plus the modding...

[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I mean is Bethesda and for what is seen there will main quest and so on.... Yes there will be random generation for random planets or sections not designed for those quests, and for random quests like Skyrim random quests... But I wouldn't say like No Man's Sky, it should be rpg (at Bethesda way, not like Baldurs Gate of course) with a more defined story and so on, characters, etc. Of course I haven't touched No Man's Sky on years... So maybe they have something for that now?

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

It looks like they're doing what star citizen does with terrain generation where they hand-make tiles of landforms like mountains/cliffs, hills, etc, then the procedural generation takes over and stitches them all together in ways that "make sense." So it's not 100% hand crafted, but it's also not "strange landform" NMS type nonsense that is entirely made from maths so you only seem to get rounded features. From what I've seen the environments look absolutely stunning! As someone who plays NMS too I can say they look 100x better than NMS.

[–] Khalic@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

Don’t fall for the investor hype. Current AI aren’t even close to being intelligent or aware. As you said for algorithms, it’s just math, algebraic topology and graph theory to be precise.