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not an apple product fan for sure ) see comment before
but if you take a look at the (of course overprized) mac pro i think the overengeneering is understandable ... thats pure hardware porn, even the venting holes are drilled to reduce sound
as said i only own one apple "product" ... the stock, because zhey have a crazy fanbase which will cultishly defend every messup ... but the mac pro is a masterpiece of hardware
.... shoud run linux thou
Apple products are opposite of hardware porn. How can you call it as such when their solution for poor choice of solder compound, which resulted in GPU desoldering, was to glue piece of rubber which pushed on the GPU? How can you call it porn, when their SATA cables are constantly failing from 2011 models, constantly? How can you call it hardware porn when Apple cheaps out on single drop of glue to hold touch driver chip not to get broken resulting in Max series of phones massively dying after couple of years of use?
What you sound like is a victim of great marketing campaign.
nah friend ... the opposite of a victim of marketing campaign ... i don't touch apple devices because of the walled garden they built and the prices they do
i was mainly talking about the mac pro's case design and the modular setup ... thats extremely appealing in my personal perspective.
i do not know if they stand the challange of time, but the mac pro for sure impressed me even if i get called a apple-hater in my personal circle of friends
so don't mistake me for a fanboy - but i do pay respect for things which imoress me.
if you check my prev comment you'll see that i especially point oit that they ask for crazy prices (monitor stand, mac pro wheels, thunderbold cable ... god even the whipes carry something like 1000% apple tax) ... still the mac pro case seems pretty cool to me
Then I apologize and strongly recommend you take a look at Framework laptop. That thing is truly modular to a point that you can upgrade CPU on a laptop, chose your own ports and repair pretty much everything. And machine comes in a metal body, very thing and lightweight.
i do know them ... they even get a step further and are wirking on a "box" where you can use your mainboard if someday they offer an updated one for the laptop case, so you can use the old one for a server box or sth
i do like those as well ... i just wanted to make my point that even for a company where i refuse to buy something from, there are some things which impress me
I’m an old Linux-head (actually started out developing tools for 10’s of variants of unix - compilation flags providing custom versions). I would love to have my mac mini running linux though, that would be awesome. I don’t think you can yet.
You'd never be able to upgrade it though.
Don't they have soldered RAM?
They sure do, and its a complete bastard. Soldered ram and disk.
My latest laptop has 96GB RAM (I run a lot of VMs) and 4TB SSD. I think I should get the full 5 years out of it.
The old ones didn't.
I actually have one right here sitting in front of me which was used to develop iOS application (as Apple forces you contractually to use Apple machines for, at the very least do the final build of an iOS app to push to their store) and I actually bought a lower specced model and upgraded the memory myself as that was the cheaper option.
However if I'm not mistaken the model generation after that (or maybe 2 generations) came with soldered memory.