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    Flatpak integration is still not great (lemmy.world)
    submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by dorumon@lemmy.world to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
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    Its even worse when you force Firefox to use wayland its icon doesn't even show.

    Edit: Oh since everyone now is confused; I only have the flatpak version of Firefox installed yet it doesn't use the pinned icon and doesn't even use the firefox icon under wayland at all.

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    [–] Hovenko@iusearchlinux.fyi 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    You were responding to my reply to someone else... but ok I guess. I am not here to convince you about anything. It's not my problem what you install on your thing. I just don't like misinformation spread based on ones believes and feelings, belittling work of whole teams of maintainters and QA staff which is core of why you can trust Linux ecosystem. Them being paid or not is not being relevant.

    [–] lambda@programming.dev -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    You belittled the work of Flatpak maintainers.

    Exactly. The QA of flatpaks is done in “trust me bro” framework.

    Then you belittled anyone using Flatpaks.

    You can just go back to windows at this point.

    All I said was that they are not too different. You are right about some OS's having paid staff who have setup some great QA to handle it though. But, at some point you are "trust me bro"ing someone, paid or not.

    [–] Hovenko@iusearchlinux.fyi 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    Then you belittled anyone using Flatpaks.

    Not a single person including you here was able to show any hint of package maintenance process, QA standard any kind of security awareness.

    All I said was that they are not too different. You are right about some OS’s having paid staff who have setup some great QA to handle it though.

    And I am saying it's an uneducated statement which fails to back itself miserably.

    But, at some point you are "trust me bro"ing someone, paid or not.

    Dude... really? Quite a desperate attempt to make an argument. Yes at some point people are just atoms stuck together ... a human being is not different from rock if you twist the point of view enough. This is just you pushing smoke in the room because you have nothing to back up what you are saying. There is a huge difference in trusting blindly and trusting because you have transparency in processes and standards which are followed.

    So if flatpak and distro repository is not so different... please show me any published standards or processes that are followed to ensure that flatpak is secure, up to date, without obsolete libraries. Would be cool to see there some transparency. Please show me that I am as secure and stable as while running OpenSuse on my machine at home.

    [–] lambda@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago

    Flathub has verified apps. This means the build either comes directly from the developer of the app itself or someone that they approved to distribute their app through Flathub. That's kinda the ultimate QA to me. If the developer of the app can't be trusted then who can? Other than that, the only checks are the community.