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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.basedcount.com/post/113726

I couldn't find any tools to check this, so I built one myself.

This is a little site I built: the Defederation Investigator defed.xyz. With it, you can get a comprehensive view of which instances have blocked yours, as well as which ones you are federated with.

The tool is open source and available on GitHub. Hopefully someone will find it useful, enjoy.

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[–] Lucia@eviltoast.org 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just linking a similar tool because I haven’t seen it being mentioned yet: https://fba.ryona.agency/

It's made by kiwifarms though, they even included their favorite word at the end of the page.

[–] Spzi@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s made by kiwifarms though

I didn't know, thanks for letting me know. I frankly do not care though, in the exact same way that I do not care that Lemmy is made by tankies.

The interesting bit would be how people with these extreme agencies abuse these tools or their users to further their goals.

As I see it, both cases are questionable people providing useful tools free for me to use. Wether I use these tools or not, has what impact in regards to their agenda? I certainly would not like to be a pawn in their game, or support their cause without consent.

If you think that's what happens, please show me. That would be very interesting to know and might lead to me ceasing usage / recommendation.

[–] Lucia@eviltoast.org 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

As I see it, both cases are questionable people providing useful tools free for me to use.

Lemmy devs may have controversal political views, but their software is written with a good intention. KiwiFarms on the other hand use it to target instances.

If you think that’s what happens, please show me. That would be very interesting to know and might lead to me ceasing usage / recommendation.

I just see no reason to use a tool made by controversial people with awful intention if there's a good alternative with no such controversies. But you can decide for yourself, I just wanted to inform.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lemmy devs may have controversial political views, but their software is written with a good intention. KiwiFarms on the other hand use it to target instances.

Not just that, in all interactions with them, I've never found the devs to be anything but respectful.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, that is partially because they leave the less respectful interactions to their alt-accounts ;)

But yes, the software is written with good intentions.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

KiwiFarms on the other hand use it to target instances.

I haven't heard of them. What are they about?

[–] Lucia@eviltoast.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems like a forum with a focus on targeted trolling and harassment. There's a wiki page on them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Oh I think Danny Brown mentioned this on one of his podcasts. Thanks.

[–] SuddenDownpour@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Lemmy devs may have controversal political views, but their software is written with a good intention. KiwiFarms on the other hand use it to target instances.

Let's go even further than that. Let's say that the most annoying people around the whole Fediverse are Hexbear. On the worst days, all they do is to organize to spam specific threads, which is indeed annoying, but that's the extent of it. KiwiFarms is responsible for harassing people until they commit suicide for the heinous crime of being weird. Anyone aware of this who wants to associate with them has no place in civilized society.

[–] Spzi@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure how the developer's intention or leaning affects me. Or how my usage or non-usage affects their intention or leaning, or how they can act on it. Maybe my usage provides data for them to improve their tools? But since the tools themselves are agnostic, I'm not sure how that's a bad thing either.

if there’s a good alternative with no such controversies

Strictly speaking about functionality, I saw no alternative which is on par to the .agency tool. It has more features, is faster, provides more information and causes less strain on network servers. At least that's my quick impression.

Anyways, thanks for the conversation!