I don't completely mind. This is a boon to platforms like Nebula and CuriosityStream, which I think respect creators more with revenue and users with no ads. Sure it's not free but there are no shennanigans like this.

[–] Syntax@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If you don't mind paying though, just pay for YT Premium?

[–] nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Giving google money so they can ruin the internet for me in the future? Nah, I give creators money through pateron but google would have to stop being literally evil for me to consider giving them money.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First, YouTube Premium costs a shitload more than Nebula. Using Australian prices, YTP is $15 per month. Nebula is just $30 per year.

But second—and this is just me, I can't speak for others—I did pay for YouTube Red, back when it was called that. But I've long been annoyed at all the many ways YouTube is hostile towards its creators. The way their copyright system goes so far above and beyond what's actually legally required, and how that so frequently works against creators. They seem to have just given up on the notion of fair use entirely, they've had a history of even allowing copyright claims on things that are uncopyrightable like public domain NASA footage, because some copyrighted news footage used it and tried to claim it against others. And the people who abuse the system never face repercussions. Creators do. The final straw for me though, and when I decided to turn off my Red account and start using adblockers, was when YouTube decided to change the definition of who was eligible for the partner program and this monetisation, cutting out smaller channels entirely. That pissed me off, and was when I said screw Google.

[–] TheWheelMustGoOn@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And how do you know nebula won't do the exact same shit as soon as it's big enough? Reddit was also once the good guy. Either abolish the market logic by getting some other system than one company hosting the videos or See platform after platform turn to shit when they want to make money

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

Nebula is owned by its creators. It's a completely different style of business from YouTube, because there isn't a clear boundary between "creators" and "viewers" on YouTube since anyone can upload whatever they want, while Nebula is a business made by creators for creators to have a more secure source of income while also providing viewers a better experience without ads.

[–] Cybersteel@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

By using preventative measures. You keep them small so they don't misbehave. It's like cutting off a snakes fang to keep as a pet or a limbs of a person.

[–] x49@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Point being that then you're paying youtube/Google/alphabet the money. Subscribing to creator-owned sites like nebula cuts out the middle man, gives creators a larger cut of the pie, gives them agency, and makes them less dependent on YouTube's whims. Of course not applicable to other content on YouTube like eg big label music videos

[–] UmbrellAssassin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the reason why nothing will change. People continue to do the "easy way out". Keep paying the people trying to fuck over the content creators and the consumers cause it is easier than to find bullshit to satisfy your life. Good job.

[–] TheWheelMustGoOn@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

I mean that's capitalism for you. I really don't care which name fucks me over. Video streaming is too expensive to do it federation based. So it's either paying someone else and hoping capitalist forces aren't pushing the other platform to act like YouTube in the future or stop watching YouTube style content.