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I assume it not completely locked down, but does it mean Google doesn't have access to everything like I assume it does with Android?

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[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is for security concerns, because all the firmware and driver are maintained by first party, so once the first party stopped maintaining firmware, there is no way for graphene to make the device as secure as a phone that is still in its support period.

At that point, you can try to switch to lineage to increase the life of your device.

That being said, graphene do offer extended support for some devices like pixel 4(XL) is still supported right now, but it made it very clear that it is "extended support", and it exist only to help user transition to their next device.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

At that point, you can try to switch to lineage to increase the life of your device.

Which basically brings me to my question, how is LineageOS for should I call it basic privacy.

[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is okay for privacy, especially if you dont have google app installed, but it is not security and privacy focused.

If you have google app installed I imagine it is probably as private as stock os on a pixel, but less secure. Graphene/calyx will definitely have better security and privacy than lineage with or without gapps.

But I understand there is other tradeoffs besides just security and privacy, like minimizng ewaste, cost, availability, etc.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's good for general computing, and if it's off the internet it's good for anything. But if it's networked don't trust it with things you're not comfortable being at higher risk.

So watch YouTube fine, banking maybe not

The context here is a phone that's no longer receiving hardware security updates, not lineage OS itself. If you put lineage on a modern phone getting updates, then I'd be comfortable using it as a standard phone doing all the standard things including online banking

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

You don't have privacy if some criminal has access to your phone.

[–] Imprint9816@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

From Kuketz - "Overall, LineageOS leaves neither a privacy-friendly nor really secure impression"