“People think, increasingly it appears, that we shouldn’t be doing this. Well, let me start by saying we haven’t lost a single American in this war,” McConnell said. “Most of the money that we spend related to Ukraine is actually spent in the US, replenishing weapons, more modern weapons. So it’s actually employing people here and improving our own military for what may lie ahead.”

cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/4085063

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[–] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You think China and North Korea don't look around at adjacent territories licking their lips

North Korea only borders SK and China. It has never invaded another country. China hasn't invaded another country since 1979 and since then Vietnam and China have peacefully resolved their land border dispute.

Before you respond like a tankie that America is an imperialist shithole, America is not the one (this time) committing war crimes, RUSSIA is.

America is committing war crimes right now. The imposition of collective punishment is a war crime. America's comprehensive sanctions which it has applied to several countries constitute collective punishment and are hence a war crime.

Condemning the Russian invasion shouldn't mean white washing the world's largest perpetrator of state terrorism.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

Just a minor correction for you, NK also borders Russia.

[–] KerPop47@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sanctions are not collective punishment, and war crimes only exist in the context of war.

Also, the DPRK did invade the RoK, that's what started the Korean War.

Also also, China has reserved a spot on its equivalent of the National Mall for when it takes Taiwan back.

China definitely cares about how well Russia's invasion of Ukraine goes, because of the many geopolitical parallels it would have with it invading Taiwan.

[–] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sanctions are not collective punishment

Not according to the state department. They themselves say the reason they use sanctions is to cause as much pain to the people as possible so they're more likely to overthrow the gov't, or failing that, be softer targets for military intervention.

DPRK did invade the RoK

The RoK was doing genocide and had been recognized as the gov't of all of Korea in the UN due to the US's machinations, a gov't whose election was rigged in the south, and absent in the north. The elections the north arranged were of course, ignored.

The DPRK saw that their position was unsustainable and struck while they still stood a chance. The war started when the people of the DPRK were faced with an existential threat.

Which is kind of similar to Russia's invasion of Ukraine, but nobody here is gonna pretend Russia are the good guys, just that they're fighting a greater evil.

Also also, China has reserved a spot on its equivalent of the National Mall for when it takes Taiwan back.

Do you think the RoC can feasibly remain independent forever?

Eventually either PRC is gonna be able to make them a better deal than what the failing American empire can, or they'll make long-term peaceful integration infeasible, necessitating short-term, violent integration.

[–] Flinch@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

What are sanctions if not collective punishment? The entire point of sanctions is to make the average person's life worse, with the idea that this will somehow cause them to rise up and overthrow their government. That's the very definition of collective punishment.