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You'll take cheese and 2% cow milk from my cold dead hands.
He said diary. He would like to take away your schedule
He'll need one to try to find a time when I'm not shoveling cheese down my throat hole while washing it down with milk.
Imagine feeling rebellious over consuming a baby's nutrition from an animal ππ
You: "you'll take cheese and 2% cow milk from my cold dead hands."
Nature: "hold my beer."
I mean, this is the problem. We all will be cold and dead soon if we don't fix this.
This shit ain't hard and people have been working on it for ages. Besides, dairy is a VERY small percent of total greenhouse gas emissions. No, milk doesn't leach hormones into you. No, extra steroids and shit for feed doesn't hurt anyone except MAYBE the actual farmer. Yes, better feed options are getting much more attention which lower N20 emissions. It's a shame I killed my reddit comments because I've had to have this conversation at least 40+ times over there lol.
https://www.americandairy.com/sustainability/reducing-dairys-greenhouse-gas-emissions/
https://www.npr.org/2022/04/27/1095100351/the-dairy-industry-aims-to-be-carbon-neutral-by-2050-heres-what-it-means-for-far
https://www.journalofdairyscience.org/article/S0022-0302(17)31069-X/pdf
https://health.clevelandclinic.org/dont-forget-dairy-part-childs-healthy-diet/ via https://www.dietaryguidelines.gov/
Want alternatives and reasons why dairy is important? There's a reason why being Vegan is so much more difficult than giving eggs, dairy, and fish a pass lol.
https://extension.usu.edu/nutrition/research/dairy-in-your-childs-diet
I don't live in the US. I live in New Zealand.
We don't have a lot of your additives and our milk contains less sugar, for some reason. So I'm not bothered by that stuff.
We are one of the world's large dairy exporters (mostly to China).
The dairy industry here is mostly grass fed, it's a massive emitter of climate change gasses, leading us to be one of the high polluters per capita in the world.
It has also destroyed our river ecology due to fertiliser run off and excrement.
Culturally, domestically New Zealand is a massive dairy consumer (for reference an average household of 3 uses a 1kg (2.2 pound) block of cheese per week, 4 litres of milk and 500g (1 pound) of butter every week. Most Americans are surprised to hear we put butter on all our sandwiches).
I have no intention of becoming vegan.
But I have lobbied my representative for way more legislative curbs on the dairy industry and I have committed to eating less dairy myself.
I'm not au fait with your dairy industry but by 2050 we will look back on the wildfires and storms and landslides we're having now as "the good old days".
Is the reason you are downvoting me because you want me to stop discussing this with you? Because if so, that's ok, I can oblige.