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[–] ComplexLotus@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
  • Trump in the US about Putin:

"I'd say that's pretty smart. He's taking over a country -- really avast, vast location, a great piece of land with a lot of people, and just walking right in." "Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine -- of Ukraine. Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that's wonderful."

So Donald J. Trump i type C. ? Hard right? I would say Trump is not "hard" right, he is the leader of the right wing in general of all conservatives. He represents their interest best. And all conservatives in Europe think the same way as Trump:

  • Afd in Germany:

Kotré describes Ukraine as a US staging ground to destabilize Russia, adding: "And when we talk about that, we also have to talk about the bioweapons laboratories that are aimed at Russia.

He seems to be Category E, but I say he is also C.

  • Le Pen in France: Of meeting the Russian president in 2017, she replied: “The Vladimir Putin of five years ago is not exactly that of today, ... okay war in Georgia in 2008 was not the same? She wants to find a european solution and does not want the US to help Ukraine, basically corruptly Pro Russia behind the scenes like Trump.

People do not seem to realize how hard the right wing is betting on the destruction of Ukraine. They can use the same to eradicate the "social democrats" in their own countries as Putin did with Navalny. Use it to justify Authoritarianism at home.

[–] wieli99@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As a European, I consider Trump hard right, as I do the AFD aswell. Just because it's become more mainstream doesn't mean it's no longer hard imo

[–] raktheundead@fedia.io 5 points 1 year ago

AfD is prime "Do it again, Bomber Harris" material.

[–] dvdv@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago

The Overton window is a beautiful thing.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

So Donald J. Trump i type C. ?

Yes he is. Attracted to the racist sexist Russian Military culture.

And sure Trump is mostly just a narcissist that doesn't have any real ideological thinking. Mostly he's just going along with whatever will make his supporters adore him. But he's all about the racism and sexism, and these are used in fascist propaganda. Given Trump actually is these things, this propaganda is all the more effective. "He tells it like it is!"

But even if Trump himself is just a racist misogynistic asshole that's not intentionally creating a fascist movement, his personality traits have created a fascist movement whether Trump himself intended that to happen or not.