[-] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You're absolutely insane. Terrorists invaded Israel and brutally killed 1500 people, and your response is, eh maybe it's not that bad. It's not about the volume of people killed, it's about the way they were killed and the sworn mission from Hamas to never stop. A mission they affirmed just a couple days ago when they announced they were not apologetic for their actions and they'd do it again. So, this is the response they'll get from Israel. In order for there to be peace, Hamas must be completely destroyed. You pretend that you don't support Hamas, but your eagerness to avoid any discussion of why Israel is doing what they're doing speaks to an irrational fixation. I doubt you're Palestinian or Israeli. You don't know what it's like living under hundreds of rockets launched at you every day, but you demand Israel return to that, and return to the threat of more terrorism on their civilians. They will not, and I don't see why I should prefer innocent Israelis dying over innocent Palestinians. If someone innocent is going to die, at least use their death in service of destroying terrorism so that one day there might be peace.

https://www.algemeiner.com/2023/11/01/hamas-official-promises-carry-out-oct-7-massacre-again-and-again-until-israels-annihilation/

[-] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago

You've just described a war. People die, yes. But it's not Israel stuffing babies in ovens, cutting unborn out of their mother's, torturing and raping families in front of each other, and on. Sorry you're upset about Palestinians dying. It's a sad thing. But it's not going to stop Israel from defending themselves against a threat sworn to destroy them and all Jews.

By your assertion, Hamas is an Israel puppet and this is their masterpiece coup de gras? I'm not sure why any of that would excuse literal terrorism? People are responsible for their own actions. The ones who invaded Israel and brutalized their citizens, are responsible. If Israel was supporting terrorism, it sure seems like that would have been the time to do something about it. But even if they were, the terrorists are still responsible for their actions. They could have chosen not to attack, but they didn't. This is the consequence. Gaza is still standing, despite how eager you and others are to see Israel raze it to dust.

What do frigging cooked babies atrocities matter in this context?

It means everything when the purpose of the conversation is to demonize Israel and ignore the motivation for their actions. It speaks to a level of barbarism far beyond what Israel would ever do, and again, despite how people on this forum want Israel to appear.

Imagine that instead of Arabs, Israel army bombed, say, the German city of Dresden, killing thousands of civillians because it's a neonazi hotspot where international refugee centers are attacked. Well all white people are the same. Fuck them, right?

Is Dresden harboring terrorists?? It makes a pretty big fucking difference.

[-] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago

Is she going to talk about Hamas putting babies in ovens and baking them to death?

[-] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago

I just disabled ghostery ad-block and that seems to work. Still have ublock going.

[-] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip -5 points 10 months ago

Would those numbers you're citing be coming from the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry? Are you literally taking the word of terrorists to try to make your point?

[-] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip -5 points 10 months ago

They wouldn't condemn Hamas or the Oct 7th attacks, however.

[-] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip -2 points 11 months ago

From the article:

The Hamas-run Health Ministry in the Gaza Strip says at least 500 people have been killed in an explosion that it says was caused by an Israeli airstrike

You're using Hamas as a source. That's pretty embarrassing.

[-] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip -2 points 11 months ago

Thank you for saying that.

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