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If the descentralization of social networks continue, we will have to prepare for the eventual rise of the instances wars, where people will start to fight about which instance is better and which one is weird to be in and so on, but that's for the future of us all.

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[–] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Already happening. Have you heard of Beehaw?

Competition is good. Competition keeps us strong.

[–] juliebean@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what about beehaw? i've seen it around, but know not of any instance wars.

[–] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Beehaw defederated from a lot of servers and nobody knows why.

[–] GreenCrush@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

It's because they're lame.

[–] ScaNtuRd@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just hope that most people will be open-minded and that most instances will federate. But that's probably being optimistic.

[–] ProfezzorDarke@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, this is exactly what will happen, though there will be bubbles of similar minded instances, no doubt, but given the federate nature of this all, I don't think someone will make their instance incompatible to the rest, except of course some corpos get their hands on it... looking at meta

[–] marmo7ade@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

The 2nd largest instance has already de-federated themselves to create a walled garden with reddit-style moderation, eg you can be banned because the mods don't like what you said, even if it does not break the rules. That instance is: beehaw.

[–] fritata_fritato@lemmy.nz 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It is absolutely already a thing

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[–] lhx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reminds me of the good ol IRC days.

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[–] Eddie@lemmy.lucitt.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

sounds lit. do you all take butter and salt with your popcorn?

[–] foo@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Have you tried nutritional yeast?

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[–] bonecows@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Any good guides on all the instances?

I want to pick sides early so I can feast on the blood of those who dared choose differently.

[–] FunCod_64@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, there are the fascists(exploding-heads.com) and the communists(lemmygrad.ml) for a start.

You have some national instances such as lemmy.ca, aussie.zone, feddit.de, feddit.nl, feddit.uk and feddit.it.

Beehaw is busy building their ivory tower by defederating anyone with a slightly different oppinion so i'd say they are the centrists or maybe the swiss.

Other than that the rest is pretty much the same, if you ask me.

[–] SpicaNucifera@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's only until they have better mod tools.

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[–] ieightpi@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (9 children)

The fact that all instances talk to each other, makes me think we likely won't have wars.

I mean I'm subscribed to beehaw and kbin communities. And everything in between.

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[–] lemmy@lemmy.quad442.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it would be better if everybody selfhosted a instance of their own. Make it super hard and complicated to find communities but, keep things nice and clean

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[–] gthutbwdy@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Email is federated as well, but I never saw anything I could call email instance wars. You can use whichever you want, no one really cares.

[–] syboxez@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I see an sbcglobal, aol, hotmail, or yahoo, I will assume tech illiteracy

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

haha, I do have a @hotmail.com account. Granted, nowadays I use it mainly as my "spam" account (to be clear: I'm not sending spam, it's the account I give when I'm required to give an email or create an account) but hotmail was a big thing in the old days before gmail and that account still has sentimental value to me.

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[–] souperk@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's the Gentoo equivalent of an instance?

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Building a CLI ActivityPub client from source.

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[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)

This will likely follow a similar pattern to email, since it's starting from a very similar position.

At some point people will begin to assign identities to instances and imagine (rightly or wrongly) that being on an instance says something about a person. People do that with cars, shoes, and yes, even email domains.

From a technical perspective, right now Lemmy is as anonymous as can be — I've yet to see an instance that requires ANY kind of verification. I didn't need to provide an email address, phone number, or any other identifying information to sign up. Didn't even need to solve a captcha. I just choose a name and set a password and BOOM! I was in.

Once upon a time, email worked this way, too. Then came the spammers, scammers, and other bad actors, and this was deemed untenable. Nowadays, any email provider that allows anonymous signup is likely to be blocked by most of the email-using world. You won't be able to use them to sign up for other services, and you might not even have your mail accepted by other providers.

This will definitely become a problem as Lemmy becomes popular, and instance admins will need to crack down, lest they be overrun and defederated by the rest of the world.

I'm not sure what the answer is. This is a problem that has not been adequately solved, IMHO. A few bad apples spoil the bunch. That's been true since long before the Internet.

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[–] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

This is an avengers level threat

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