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Folks that have been here awhile probably already know this, but may have forgotten and new folks may not know it, so a reminder that we build the All feed together:

These previous ways will only show communities that are already known to the instance. Especially if you joined a small or inactive Lemmy instance, there will be few communities to discover.

With that in mind, for intrepid explorers here, I'd highly recommend looking for communities via Lemmyverse and joining them from here to make the All feed more varied than just Lemmy.World's communities.

I post this as I was browsing through All the other day and noticed it looked like I may as well have remained browsing Local for how few remote communities I was seeing. And that's not for a lack of interesting communities on other instances either!

Although......That's not to say it might not also be due to a lack of activity in them, but that can be helped by looking for communities first before making them locally, I think!

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[–] mookulator@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Thanks for the FYI! I didn’t know it worked like that. How much influence does a single person have over what appears in the All feed? Let’s suppose I find an obscure community and subscribe, and I’m the first person from Lemmy.World to do so. Do posts from that community immediately start showing up in everyone’s All feeds? Or does it take a small army of us subscribing to the same community to make it really show up?

[–] ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

As far as I'm aware, it only takes one person subscribing & making the instance aware of the community to start its posts showing up in the All feed. What then determines how much it shows up in the All feed is just how active the community is, if I'm not mistaken.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

… and don’t forget kbin.social

[–] ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Speaking of, in the menu in the top right of Lemmyverse, there's an option to view Kbin.social's magazines to help with that!

And in the spirit of not forgetting Kbin-related stuff, there's also several other Kbinstances around besides just .social for those curious!

[–] iusearchbtw@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Has kbin/Lemmy federation been fixed? I've looked at a few kbin communities from several different Lemmy instances, and it looks like the last available posts are from around a week ago.

[–] TeaHands@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Kbin has been a little patchy in terms of federation, some days it's absolutely fine and then others there seem to be big delays. That said I'm subbed to tons of magazines and have been interacting with them over the last couple hours, so seems to be ok at the moment.

For a lot of topics I find the magazine version(s) are a lot less active than the related Lemmy communities, so the ones you're looking at might just genuinely not have recent posts.

[–] curiosityLynx@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

And fedia.io

[–] RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Can you simply link to the kbin.social by typing their address/instance into lemmy.world's search, and the it becomes ...indexed? What is the word for that? Known to this instance in any case?

[–] reflex@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thanks for that link OP. This bit answered a question I didn't know I had:

You can find more communities by browsing different Lemmy instances, or using the Lemmy Community Browser. When you found a community that you want to follow, enter its URL (e.g. https://feddit.de/c/main) or the identifier (e.g. !main) into the search field of your own Lemmy instance. Lemmy will then fetch the community from its original instance, and allow you to interact with it. The same method also works to fetch users, posts or comments from other instances.

I'm going to assume this works similarly on kbin.
Is it necessary to join them though? Or is it enough to, e.g., reply once, or even just search from within your instance?

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thanks, I just found this community https://lemmy.ml/c/math on link you shared, but can't open it on Jerboa or find it.

[–] brad@toad.work 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

it should pop up if you search for [!math@lemmy.ml](/c/math@lemmy.ml) or potentially click this: !math@lemmy.ml while viewing this comment from your instance

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How could you read my message if I deleted it?

[–] ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are delays in how posts/comments/edits/deletes federate to other instances, which appears to be how the others were able to see it.

If you view this thread from Brad Ganley's instance (click the little pentagram icon), your comment's contents are still visible...At least as of the time I'm writing this. By a little later, federation may have kicked in & synchronized the changes.

[–] nxlemmy@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you sure you deleted it? Its still there

[–] brad@toad.work 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It does not appear deleted to me

[–] wolfshadowheart@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

That's odd, here on kbin I can load up that page (just opens into lemmy's website).

[–] RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I have been doing exactly this for the last three days! The site can be slow to respond, so one has to be a bit patient at times.

[–] Transcendant@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Excellent advice.

[–] professorcomic@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, I’m using lemm.ee and the Memmy app, when I click on a community in the link you posted, it shows me the community but I also have to log in to subscribe. Using the lemm.ee login doesn’t seem to work (I’m trying to sub to worldnews@lemmy.ml). Should my account be in the lemmy.ml instance?

[–] ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not familiar with Memmy, so there may be some differences in navigating through it to subscribe to communities. If you can, you may want to try to copy the url or !worldnews@lemmy.ml, or simply tap that previous link, to go to it from lemm.ee and subscribe.

You may also set your home instance in Lemmyverse by tapping the home icon & typing in lemm.ee, then the links should open in lemm.ee with you still signed in.

[–] professorcomic@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m receiving an error when I tap the link. This might be a Memmy issue. I did see they’ll add instance search in a future update, so that might do it. Thanks!

[–] TeaHands@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of the apps are having weird issues with opening links at the moment, which isn't helped by the fact that the link formats keep changing in subtle ways from one Lemmy release to another! It's fun to see all the swift progress but definitely makes it confusing for new lemmings.

[–] professorcomic@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, it can be frustrating, but I’m enjoying it more than that other site. The bean memes are hilarious.

[–] TeaHands@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If beanposting is to be our legacy, I'm ok with that.

[–] Mnmalst@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Doesn't always work tho. Opening https://kbin.social/m/android@lemdro.id for examples gives me a 404.

[–] ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not too familiar with Kbin, but does it work similarly in that if nobody there has searched for that community, it may not show up to subscribe to?

In other words, if you search its url: https://lemdro.id/c/android on Kbin, does it show up as a magazine to subscribe to/follow?

[–] curiosityLynx@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

https://kbin.social/d/lemdro.id also gives a 404.

Just checked if lemdro.id possibly defederated kbin.social, but that's not the case. Could be that they have the same bug lemmy.ml had that blocks all requests from kbin instances.

[–] Mnmalst@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

@ElectroVagrant Yes it works like that on kbin, at least to an extend. I am not sure when exactly it gets available tho. Besides that, as other people said, there seems to be a federation bug at the moment which seems to cause this problem.

[–] orientalsniper@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I read that the admin is fixing that soon.

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