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Found this post super informative as it relates to Mastodon, and thought Lemmy might also benefit from this perspective. I'm not sure I share his optimism, but his points seem sound to dampen some of the alarm bells over Meta joining the Fediverse.

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[–] nostalgicgamerz@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Sounds like mastodon doesn’t mind lying with vipers and is trying to justify it

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

Lol are you serious? What, did you want a little bubble on the internet where corporations don't exist? What does "open source" mean to you, open to only the entities you allow in? Like the article says, join an instance that defederates every corporate entity or make your own, but don't blame developers of open source software for keeping it open.

[–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

"Open source" means anyone can use or reuse the source code, it doesn't require you to show content from entities you don't trust.

The great thing about the fediverse is that we are all free to create or join instances that have federation policies we prefer.

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[–] WidowsFavoriteSon@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I think a lot of people getting the fantods over this don't grok the finer points of federation.

[–] VeeSilverball@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Eugen is not the person I would trust for good judgment on this because his agenda has always been user growth-centric, so a Fediverse that resembles Facebook would just be a "yay" moment for him - either way he can still end up with a career by leveraging his role with ActivityPub.

That said, I don't believe EEE works here, because AP evolved in an environment that already had to compete like-for-like with corporate options. You'll still log in for the rest of the fediverse if it brings you better content than Threads...

...and it has an edge on that, because these spaces are not designed around herding around industrial quantities of users. They have a natural size at which moderators shrug and close the gates if a big instance is too troublesome, because it hurts the quality of the experience for their own users. This peeves instance admins who want the power fantasy of "owning" a lot of low-quality users, but it also basically guarantees defederation with corporate social, because it's never been able to handle its own moderation problem other than in a "pass-the-buck" way.

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[–] Xylinna@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Locking post as comments are getting off topic and are not following the rules of the community.

[–] RestrictedAccount@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Basically, none of the B-List celebrities are never going to give up their followings on Twitter.

If the A-List comes over to the Fediverse, we could become a thing as a Twitter replacement. But short of a national stampede, they aren’t coming unless ALL of the sheeple go first.

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[–] Lazylore@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I see it as free advertisment. Especially because it won't be available for some time in most of Europe. Word gets out that you can join Threads(without ever joining it) anyway, that is basically free advertisment for Mastodon instead. It have a fairly big chance of working like a boost for Mastodon it self.

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